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Old 02-08-2002, 04:51 AM   #71
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I couldn't agree more. What did Jesus say Love the Lord your God with all your Heart, Mind and Soul. (parphasied by me)



Very good! There is only one way to love God, and that is with your all. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 02-08-2002, 06:00 AM   #72
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I believe that there has to be only one kind of religion, one which governs ALL your life, not just the life you have in church.


Glad to know someone here agrees with me on this, even though I'm not a Christian.
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Old 02-08-2002, 06:29 AM   #73
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I have one question to you guys though..

I have seen some examples about religion clashing with politics here, or at least an unsteady ground. Is their sort of a religion in the church and one religion in the street so to say??

And what are you views upon this? Should religion and politics be two seperated things, and how does that in the case of a yes concern a person that divide his life in two, one political say career and on religious..?

And I have to agree with Cerek! This is truelly a cool thread!

Thank you guys! You have made booring coffee pauses more interesting!



The "clashing" of politics and religion occur when an organized religion attempts to get certain law(s) passed. The U.S. Constitution specifically states that the church CANNOT have an active role in governing the land.

However, an INDIVIDUAL politician is certainly allowed to follow his religious covictions in supporting or opposing legislation. Indeed, it is expected. Every president that I can remember (which would start with Nixon)has made their religious views public. Whether they were sincere, or just looking for public support is debatable, but to run for President and openly claim to be an atheist or agnostic would be political suicide.

It's a two-edged sword. The American population doesn't want any single religion "forced" on them by the government (and rightly so), but they DO want the President to have religious morals and values.

Others can probably explain this better than I. Politics are NOT my strong point. Hope this has helped a little anyway.
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Old 02-08-2002, 06:40 AM   #74
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Thanks Cerek!

It helped abit. USA and Sweden are far away and the cultural differncies do be there, so good to know more about this so one can stay away from making blunders later!
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Old 02-08-2002, 07:32 AM   #75
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I talking within the specific context of finding or rejecing faith or spirituality, not enshrining a global, grand unified mantra.

[ 02-07-2002: Message edited by: Yorick ]



Ahh I see, then my mistake [img]smile.gif[/img] Im os used to getting slammed with twisted semantics and stuff around here that I have been over compensating by being too literal [img]smile.gif[/img]
 
Old 02-08-2002, 07:11 PM   #76
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Originally posted by Cerek the Barbaric:


The "clashing" of politics and religion occur when an organized religion attempts to get certain law(s) passed. The U.S. Constitution specifically states that the church CANNOT have an active role in governing the land.




Cerek, we may have a disagreement here I think the US Constitution calls for no Gov't intervention (sp?) in the Church or Religion not the other way around. When ever you have any organization or 'zations there will always be contact and influence pleddling, be it Religious, Labor Unions, Businesses. Everyone wants their slice of the pie and then some.
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Old 02-08-2002, 07:32 PM   #77
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"A Kindergarten teacher was observing her classroom of children while they drew. She would occasionally walk around to see each child's art work. As she got to one little girl who was working diligently, she asked what the drawing was. The girl replied, "I'm drawing God." The teacher paused and said, "But no one knows what
God looks like." Without missing a beat, or looking up from her drawing, the girl replied, "They will in a minute."
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To me this illustrates the innocent faith children hold--are they closer to the Divine or merely more accepting without judgement?
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Old 02-11-2002, 07:32 AM   #78
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"A Kindergarten teacher was observing her classroom of children while they drew. She would occasionally walk around to see each child's art work. As she got to one little girl who was working diligently, she asked what the drawing was. The girl replied, "I'm drawing God." The teacher paused and said, "But no one knows what
God looks like." Without missing a beat, or looking up from her drawing, the girl replied, "They will in a minute."
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To me this illustrates the innocent faith children hold--are they closer to the Divine or merely more accepting without judgement?




Hehe. I don´t know if you have the saying:
" If you want the truth you better ask a drunk or a kid!"
Translated from Swedish.. but I hope the message reach you!

I think that kids are just thinking in more direct lines than grown ups. They don´t bother to take the lurky way to a decision. More like, hey theres a problem, lets solve it...
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Old 02-11-2002, 10:46 AM   #79
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Don't take that too literally...if you base your life on the utterances of Drunks and/or children you will quickly learn the difference between innocence and wisdom. There's a reason adults raise children and not the other way around.
 
 


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