World University Rankings 2004

[Vaskez]

Originally posted by Avatar: quote: Originally posted by Vaskez: That list is bollocks. Southampton is number 1 for Electronics in the UK - everyone in England (working or studying in electronics areas) knows that and that's all that matters to me for example. Who cares if it isn't even in the top 100 overall? The point is, that list doesn't matter, you should check where the university is in your FIELD.

I beg to differ.

Southampton has a high rating in electronics due to increased funding and good facilities.

But if it lacks in other areas such as theoretical research the cross link effect will drag it down.

Sure you are good at that single area in a single department, but the world is more about inter-department co-opreration and influence.

If you can't influence the outside world through journals in all areas, you are as good as you think you are. [/QUOTE]Southampton has the best rating in teaching AND research...
the others in the top 5 are Cambridge, Edimburgh, Imperial, Surrey IIRC

I guess you meant "AREN'T" as good as you think you are, in that last sentence. But you say single area, but it is actually the School of Electronics and Computer Science and include the Optoelectronics research centre etc. (which is shared with Physics) so it's a huge area. Anyway, not trying to argue, just thought I'd mention that.

[ 09-09-2004, 12:33 PM: Message edited by: Vaskez ]

[Jorath Calar]

Heh none of the Icelandic Unis are listed... makes me wonder... [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Lady Blue03]

Most of the Cali universities are in the top 100. Weee

SDSU (San Diego State) was way down in the 302-403 category though

[Ilander]

Well, UK was 202, I believe...But I'm happy with that...I probably could have gotten into MIT, though... ...But I didn't think I could have at the time, and that's also a long way to go for a little ole country boy...plus, there's always grad school!

[Avatar]

Originally posted by Vaskez: quote: Originally posted by Avatar: quote: Originally posted by Vaskez: That list is bollocks. Southampton is number 1 for Electronics in the UK - everyone in England (working or studying in electronics areas) knows that and that's all that matters to me for example. Who cares if it isn't even in the top 100 overall? The point is, that list doesn't matter, you should check where the university is in your FIELD.

I beg to differ.

Southampton has a high rating in electronics due to increased funding and good facilities.

But if it lacks in other areas such as theoretical research the cross link effect will drag it down.

Sure you are good at that single area in a single department, but the world is more about inter-department co-opreration and influence.

If you can't influence the outside world through journals in all areas, you are as good as you think you are. [/QUOTE]Southampton has the best rating in teaching AND research...
the others in the top 5 are Cambridge, Edimburgh, Imperial, Surrey IIRC

I guess you meant "AREN'T" as good as you think you are, in that last sentence. But you say single area, but it is actually the School of Electronics and Computer Science and include the Optoelectronics research centre etc. (which is shared with Physics) so it's a huge area. Anyway, not trying to argue, just thought I'd mention that. [/QUOTE]That is still 2-3 out of some 40-50 departments:

Not to mention big ones:

Biology
Civil Engineering
Chemistry
Mech Engineering
English
Foreign Languages

Medicine
Geo Science
History

[/)eathKiller]

I don't see Troy or Pheonix on there... do online universities not count?

[Aelia Jusa]

Originally posted by Vaskez: That list is bollocks. Southampton is number 1 for Electronics in the UK - everyone in England (working or studying in electronics areas) knows that and that's all that matters to me for example. Who cares if it isn't even in the top 100 overall? The point is, that list doesn't matter, you should check where the university is in your FIELD.

Yes, I agree, that is very important.

Anyway, my uni is #145. But it's #1 to me [img]graemlins/lovestory2.gif[/img]

[Sir Goulum]

University of Alberta, number 118. Will probably be my future university. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Arledrian]

Pfft, #480. That list is bull shit. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[Seraph]

#12

However some of these methods seem pretty poor to me. In particular the "Research Output" and "Quality of Faculty" catagories. Having a Nobel Prize winner for a teacher doesn't stop him from being a bad teacher, and the method makes no refrence to the number of patents put out by a university. Publications are nice and all, but patents show you've actually made somehing useful.