Visit the Ironworks Gaming Website Email the Webmaster Graphics Library Rules and Regulations Help Support Ironworks Forum with a Donation to Keep us Online - We rely totally on Donations from members Donation goal Meter

Ironworks Gaming Radio

Ironworks Gaming Forum

Go Back   Ironworks Gaming Forum > Ironworks Gaming Forums > General Discussion > General Conversation Archives (11/2000 - 01/2005)
FAQ Calendar Arcade Today's Posts Search

 
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 09-13-2001, 05:12 PM   #1
Nostron
Manshoon
 

Join Date: March 1, 2001
Location: California
Posts: 205
More on that what shoud we do to the country harboring them. I mean from what it sounds like Afganistan is giving safe haven to Mr. Binladin (sp). But see we can't just bomb all Afganistan because of the all the innocent people that really can't do anything.

So i guess i am asking "What should be the U.S. course of action?"
Nostron is offline  
Old 09-13-2001, 05:15 PM   #2
MILAMBER
Lord Soth
 

Join Date: March 5, 2001
Location: Southern California
Posts: 1,948
I said this in another thread, but I think they will probably handle it like they did Iraq. Tactical strikes at military targets. I doubt the public and the world would tolerate intentional targeting of civillian targets.

------------------
"The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his."
-General George Patton (1885-1945)

Member of CLAN HADB
MILAMBER is offline  
Old 09-13-2001, 05:29 PM   #3
Moridin
Fzoul Chembryl
 

Join Date: March 1, 2001
Location: Minneapolis, MN
Posts: 1,735
But unlike in Iraq, we will gaurentee either the capture or death of the leader (bin Laden in this case).

If it were up to me (and it is not ) I would capture bin Laden alive, bring him to the US and drop him in Manhatten on a street corner! Make it well publicized when he will be dropped off and where, and see how long he lasts

I am not for inhumane treatment usually, but when a single man (if in fact it is bin Laden) is responsible for that much death and destruction, he deserves to be dealt with in the most inhumane matter possible!

------------------


Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig
I've got to admit it's getting better, it's getting better all the time
Bossman of Better Funny Stuff.....of the Laughing Hyenas!
Moridin is offline  
Old 09-13-2001, 05:31 PM   #4
Diogenes Of Pumpkintown
Banned User
 

Join Date: August 9, 2001
Location: ...
Posts: 694
Quote:
Originally posted by Nostron:
More on that what shoud we do to the country harboring them. I mean from what it sounds like Afganistan is giving safe haven to Mr. Binladin (sp). But see we can't just bomb all Afganistan because of the all the innocent people that really can't do anything.

So i guess i am asking "What should be the U.S. course of action?"
I wonder if all the people opposed to the death penalty might be reconsidering their positions about right now.

Diogenes Of Pumpkintown is offline  
Old 09-13-2001, 05:34 PM   #5
SSJ4Sephiroth
Beholder
 

Join Date: May 4, 2001
Location: The Outside Looking In
Age: 37
Posts: 4,361
hmm, i WAS going to post my own grueling, cruel torture involving thousands of tiny white-hot barbs, but Moridins is a bit more ironic to me. the only problem is getting to the bastard that did it!

------------------
It's simple. Once the Planet is hurt, it gathers Spirit Energy to heal the injury. The amount of energy gathered depends on the size of the injury...What would happen if there was an injury that threatened the very life of the Planet? Think how much energy would be gathered! Ha, ha, ha. And at the center of that injury, wil be me. All that boundless energy will be mine. By merging with the energy of the Planet, I will be come a new life form, a new existence. Melding with the Planet, I will cease to exist as I am now. Only to be reborn as a 'God' to rule over every living soul.


Super Sephiroth, slayer of the Uber Fluffy, and battle co-ordionator and defender of the HADB clan.

Diplomacy is all and well, but HADB is better!
SSJ4Sephiroth is offline  
Old 09-13-2001, 05:34 PM   #6
Zeeke75
Baaz Draconian
 

Join Date: March 26, 2001
Location: Minnesota
Age: 48
Posts: 740
Quote:
Originally posted by Moridin:
But unlike in Iraq, we will gaurentee either the capture or death of the leader (bin Laden in this case).

If it were up to me (and it is not ) I would capture bin Laden alive, bring him to the US and drop him in Manhatten on a street corner! Make it well publicized when he will be dropped off and where, and see how long he lasts

I am not for inhumane treatment usually, but when a single man (if in fact it is bin Laden) is responsible for that much death and destruction, he deserves to be dealt with in the most inhumane matter possible!

I'm with you, Moridin, only with one slight modification....make it know, but don't let anyone use guns, knives or weapons like that....let them tear him apart SLOWLY.

------------------


Always listen to your heart, for it will never lead you astray.
United we stand, divided we fall!
Zeeke75 is offline  
Old 09-13-2001, 05:38 PM   #7
Nostron
Manshoon
 

Join Date: March 1, 2001
Location: California
Posts: 205
I asked my professor about this and she was like "Well... i want the terrorist to be caught alive and have his say in COURT"
In my head I was like WTF is wrong with u, court. screw court just torture him and then kill him.

------------------
That's just my opinion, I could be wrong.
Nostron is offline  
Old 09-13-2001, 07:48 PM   #8
Silver Cheetah
Fzoul Chembryl
 

Join Date: July 26, 2001
Location: Brighton, East Sussex, UK
Posts: 1,781
Quote:
Originally posted by Nostron:
I asked my professor about this and she was like "Well... i want the terrorist to be caught alive and have his say in COURT"
In my head I was like WTF is wrong with u, court. screw court just torture him and then kill him.

My view would be

1. Identify the perp.
2. Find the perp. (This very difficult.)
3. Put him up in front of a court, like they're doing with Milosovic.
4. If found guilty, there are a number of options.

I can understand that many will find this completely unacceptable. But we HAVE to have some kind of legislative way of dealing with terrorists, human rights abusers, dictators and so on. We've made a start with Milosovic et al. For a start, the evidence has to be clearly seen by all, that the person or persons identified as the perpetrator is in fact the perpetrator. This is IMPORTANT!

If you are just going to kill everyone who the government identifies as being guilty of the crime of murder, be it mass murder, serial killing or the murder of an individual, WITHOUT trial and off the cuff, then we might as well forget that concept called civilisation right now. Proof has to be public!

Look people, if it's revenge you want - to be honest, (assuming bin Laden is the guilty party) the worst thing you can do to a man like that, who is used to absolute command, who never sleeps in the same place running two nights in a row, who is used to everyone adoring him, admiring him and hanging on his every word, is to put him in jail for the rest of his life. In fact, I would say the death penalty might seem rather tame compared to that, if you'll excuse my saying so.

Not sure about the torturing thing. So you want to adopt Saddam's methods, and the methods of others like him. No, please not! Let us not act like them! Then we become what we most hate, and all distinctions are lost. From there, it's downhill all the way, it seems to me.



------------------
Silver Cheetah is offline  
Old 09-13-2001, 08:08 PM   #9
Anubis
Dungeon Master
 

Join Date: July 5, 2001
Location: The Underworld
Posts: 74
Sounds like a plan Moridin

------------------

You shall sit in judgment with Osiris
Anubis is offline  
Old 09-13-2001, 08:15 PM   #10
Lord of Alcohol
Xanathar Thieves Guild
 

Join Date: January 8, 2001
Location: Charlotte,NC
Age: 60
Posts: 4,570
No prisoners comes to mind.....but I guess interogate first
Lord of Alcohol is offline  
 


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:14 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
©2024 Ironworks Gaming & ©2024 The Great Escape Studios TM - All Rights Reserved