06-28-2004, 01:42 PM | #31 | |
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It follows I guess, that, as per the biblical promise, honoring you father and mother led to a long life. I disagree with corporal punishment. I was hit as a child - in anger - and will not hit my children. Didn't read all the argument, as I'm already convinced. I don't know about making it illegal though. Increasing education is probably a better option. |
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06-28-2004, 01:47 PM | #32 |
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Spanking is also a quick way to stop wrong behavior. During the toddler stage, a child is not capably communicating in verbal ways, so some physical component, such as a wrist slap, is simply negative reinforcement. Also, it depends on the child. Galadria rarely disciplined Piestrider, since he is cautious and prudent, but Will (age 5) needed several spankings in his pre-school career.
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06-28-2004, 01:50 PM | #33 | |
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In middle eastern cultures there has been a proliferation of family bloodshed and rivalry. In the Bible, King David fought off two armed rebellions against his own sons. Certainly they were "rebellious". What did that do for the society? Other examples are that in Pashto, the word for "cousin" doubles as "enemy". One and the same word. In a harsh world, hash measures were clearly needed, in establishing a society of mutual protection, respect, law and prosperity. Times have changed in certain areas thankfully, but not others. Context is the key to getting anything from the bible. Otherwise you could justify anything (as people do). |
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06-28-2004, 01:53 PM | #34 | |
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First thing that happens to a kid when they're born is they're whacked on the arse. So they'll breathe by crying.... what a reception! |
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06-28-2004, 02:05 PM | #35 |
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I sincerely doubt that a lack of physical punishment of children is responsible for the mess the planet is in.
One could make as strong an argument for why people are messed up BY spanking as why they are kept on the right path by it. It depends on the kid, the parents, and many other variables.
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06-28-2004, 02:44 PM | #36 |
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actually, the practice of spanking a newborn has gone out as well, now they rub a towel vigoriuosly on the chest and place a suction bulb into their throats
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06-28-2004, 03:14 PM | #39 |
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Our children are sometimes an uncomfortable reflection of our parenting. When our kids underacheive or behave badly, go look in the mirror and ask yourself why. Almost every time, I attribute it to my overly laid back attitude. My propensity to take the easy way out and not put enough effort into parenting. As soon as I put more hours and dollars into parenting, things improved greatly. You get out of it, what you put into it! Nothing good comes without work and sacrifice.
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