RDD or pale master

[Black Heart]

I would like to know which people think is better a monk/sorc/RDD or a monk/wiz/pale master.

[Legolas]

I'd put my money on the former, if properly built. It has the potential of being a very rapid and effective devestating critical platform, though the hitpoints and armor class will suffer (INT, WIS and CON will be among your lowest stats with CHA 13 and DEX 15 and a lot in the STR department). The idea is to kill the enemy before that becomes a problem.

The other option is nice, but the palemaster doesn't really complement the monk class nor does the monk do too much for the wizard.

That is, assuming Monk will be your base class and the rest is there for support.

[robertthebard]

I'd go monk/bard/rdd, only I think I'd actually go Bard/rdd/monk. You can get rdd after 5 lvls of bard, add 10 ranks of rdd, then finish out monk. I'm currently building a rogue, using the formula above, with rogue last, and the char will have both Dev Crit, and Epic Dodge feats. What's more, it's actually playable, with only the wis below 10. If you follow that formula, and put 16 in str, 16 in wis, and take one str point when they become available, you can dump all other stat points in wis, and have a monk with a great ac, Dev Crit, if you take the feats for it, and a few buff spells, plus 5 bard songs a day. The people I know that build the monk/wiz/pm build tend to take a few lvls of monk to improve the unarmed strike, but epic out either wiz or pm.
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[ 02-20-2005, 09:09 AM: Message edited by: robertthebard ]

[Legolas]

While the Bard is a good option also, at just five levels you would be missing out on Haste and Keen Edge (+1 attack per round for a total of 9+ and greater chance of criticals). It's not so much a problem if you play in a magic-rich environment where Haste and Keen are already present on many items, but rather a loss otherwise. The return is in a better base attack and better/more skills, complemented further by the song.

[robertthebard]

Assuming your going for unarmed combat, Keen edge would be no great loss, the Bard song would be more effective for an unarmed fighter. Haste might be missed, mainly for the +4 bonus to ac, and the extra attack, monks can already move pretty fast at high lvls. This can be countered with scrolls/potions. All in all, when you're building a monk, you want all the levels you can get, for the spell resistance and wis bonuses.

[Legolas]

You'd not be going for unarmed attack, but rather the kama duel-wield. This grants you two extra attacks, as does the haste. The difference between 6 and 9 attacks per round is quite significant, and also allows you to make far more of the first level Truestrike spell. Coupled with the Keen Edge spell, you are about three times as likely to score a devestating critical.

I don't think a high spell resistance is essential in this kinf of monk build, as the arcane casting classes suffer low fortitude saves and AC. With high speed, improved knockdown and devestating criticals, most mages will not have the time to dish out much damage. If you expect to face them without active Truesight, you may even use your own invisibility or invest points in the two Stealth skills to cover the distance unseen.
The one exception is when fighting a player who knows what he/she is doing (i.e. is familiar with spells other than IGMS and the Bigby series), in which case a high spell resistance won't save you either.

[Black Heart]

Accualy legolas my ac wont suffer nor will my hit points. my ac will be at least 63 and my hit points over 340.

[Black Heart]

also is it worth sacrificing 5 ac points to get more hp and damage reduction and strength.
also i won't be duel kama wielding much, i will be using a great sword, so i can get passed dd damage reduction.