For those Catholics/Christians in Religion out there... - Page 2

Calaethis Dragonsbane · 06-19-2002, 12:10 PM

you dont nesseccary have to understand something to believe in it... its almost insulting to say you understand and believe in God. I dont believe *any* mortal could truly understand God. nor do I beleive its nessacarry. but that doesnt mean you shouldnt think about things, lest you turn into a 'sheep' or a 'zombie'...

Harkoliar · 06-19-2002, 12:11 PM

Calaethis Dragonsbane,
thanks its kinda interesting discussion while it lasted [img]smile.gif[/img] but ive gotta hit the sack right now... its already midnight (groan) with school tom [img]smile.gif[/img] ... ill try to be back here l8r [img]smile.gif[/img]

to others:
well, it would be nice to have a little comment on that simple philosophy [img]smile.gif[/img] or theory for that matter [img]smile.gif[/img]

Calaethis Dragonsbane · 06-19-2002, 12:15 PM

lol; yes it has been interesting; well good night. cya later!

Tanoch Thas'ala · 06-19-2002, 12:15 PM

My favourite author, Michael Moorcock, has the philosophy in his books about Chaos and Law and the striving of Balance between the two.

Without Chaos, Law would stagnate(sp), and without Law, Chaos would be a constantly changing formless mess.

Think about it, with out Greed, or ambition, we would all be working at McDonald's for minimum wage.

Without Courage no one would have started a McDonald's.

As much as I want to believe that there is a god, I still really think that God, Satan and other Christian beliefs were made up by men to rule others.

Take a look at Greek/Roman beliefs before christianity. The sun was Apollo racing across the sky in a chariot. Lightening was created by Zeus. Athena was the goddess of war, same as Ares..Bachhus, the god of wine..etc. There was a god for everything. That is how they explained things. How their minds, at that time, could comprehend things that were going on in the world.

Basically we do the same. Man kills another man, Satan made him do it. Why are we here? God made us.

Our minds NEED to know that there is another purpose for us being alive than what is most likely true: We are a fluke. A freak of nature. IMHO.

Harkoliar · 06-19-2002, 12:19 PM

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you dont nesseccary have to understand something to believe in it... its almost insulting to say you understand and believe in God. I dont believe *any* mortal could truly understand God. nor do I beleive its nessacarry. but that doesnt mean you shouldnt think about things, lest you turn into a 'sheep' or a 'zombie'...

well b4 i go, i rilly do need to clarify this... its my "ahem" my fault in typing "understanding" in this sentence

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it something you just HAVE To believe in while accepting and understanding it.

i agree that typing down understanding is my fault [img]smile.gif[/img] for i believe "if you truly understand God, then you must be a God, for it only a God that can truly understand God" ... i meant that you must be in your logical mind and heart to accept that kind of religion without going into fanaticism (i do hope you understand what i mean... its kinda hard to explain...

)

Donut · 06-19-2002, 12:26 PM

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Originally posted by Calaethis Dragonsbane:
as you wish.... although what anyone could possibly say about angles is beyond me... I mean, how many ppl here in IW have had first hand experinces...?

That's acute comment but it borders on the obtuse. It is a normal reflex after all.

Calaethis Dragonsbane · 06-19-2002, 12:28 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Harkoliar:

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i meant that you must be in your logical mind and heart to accept that kind of religion without going into fanaticism (i do hope you understand what i mean... its kinda hard to explain... )

indeed it is hard to explain... there arnt enough words in the english lanuage and yet... yes I understand what your getting at.

Calaethis Dragonsbane · 06-19-2002, 12:30 PM

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Originally posted by Donut:

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Originally posted by Calaethis Dragonsbane:
as you wish.... although what anyone could possibly say about angles is beyond me... I mean, how many ppl here in IW have had first hand experinces...?

That's acute comment but it borders on the obtuse. It is a normal reflex after all.

[/QUOTE]borders on what? acute comment how? sorry, my wits have gone begging. its only my personal opinoin. I *suppose* I could have been more tactful...

[ 06-19-2002, 12:30 PM: Message edited by: Calaethis Dragonsbane ]

SomeGuy · 06-19-2002, 12:33 PM

I believe that He(God) sent Lucifer down to Hell where he became Satan because Lucifer thought he was better then God.So he gathered a group of angels that were on his side and they started a war.Of course,God won and Lucifer and his angels were sent to Hell,where Lucifer became Satan,and his angels became demons.That's how I see it.

Donut · 06-19-2002, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by Calaethis Dragonsbane:

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Originally posted by Donut:

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Originally posted by Calaethis Dragonsbane:
as you wish.... although what anyone could possibly say about angles is beyond me... I mean, how many ppl here in IW have had first hand experinces...?

That's acute comment but it borders on the obtuse. It is a normal reflex after all.

[/QUOTE]borders on what? acute comment how? sorry, my wits have gone begging. its only my personal opinoin. I *suppose* I could have been more tactful...[/QUOTE]No, it's okay but you could look at it from the alternate, adjacent or corresponding viewpoint. Try looking at my post form a different (what's the word I'm looking for?).

06-19-2002, 12:10 PM	#11
Calaethis Dragonsbane Legion Symbol Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: Somewhere in between Age: 39 Posts: 7,029	you dont nesseccary have to understand something to believe in it... its almost insulting to say you understand and believe in God. I dont believe any mortal could truly understand God. nor do I beleive its nessacarry. but that doesnt mean you shouldnt think about things, lest you turn into a 'sheep' or a 'zombie'... __________________ Skydracgrrl: Cruelty, thy name is Cal! --- There are none so blind as those who refuse to see, none so deaf as those who refuse to hear, and none so smelly as those who refuse to bathe.

06-19-2002, 12:11 PM	#12
Harkoliar Jack Burton Join Date: March 21, 2001 Location: Philippines, but now Harbor City Sydney Age: 41 Posts: 5,556	Calaethis Dragonsbane, thanks its kinda interesting discussion while it lasted [img]smile.gif[/img] but ive gotta hit the sack right now... its already midnight (groan) with school tom [img]smile.gif[/img] ... ill try to be back here l8r [img]smile.gif[/img] to others: well, it would be nice to have a little comment on that simple philosophy [img]smile.gif[/img] or theory for that matter [img]smile.gif[/img] __________________ Catch me if you can..

06-19-2002, 12:15 PM	#13
Calaethis Dragonsbane Legion Symbol Join Date: May 29, 2002 Location: Somewhere in between Age: 39 Posts: 7,029	lol; yes it has been interesting; well good night. cya later! __________________ Skydracgrrl: Cruelty, thy name is Cal! --- There are none so blind as those who refuse to see, none so deaf as those who refuse to hear, and none so smelly as those who refuse to bathe.

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06-19-2002, 12:15 PM	#14
Tanoch Thas'ala Banned User Join Date: February 14, 2002 Location: San Francisco Posts: 336	My favourite author, Michael Moorcock, has the philosophy in his books about Chaos and Law and the striving of Balance between the two. Without Chaos, Law would stagnate(sp), and without Law, Chaos would be a constantly changing formless mess. Think about it, with out Greed, or ambition, we would all be working at McDonald's for minimum wage. Without Courage no one would have started a McDonald's. As much as I want to believe that there is a god, I still really think that God, Satan and other Christian beliefs were made up by men to rule others. Take a look at Greek/Roman beliefs before christianity. The sun was Apollo racing across the sky in a chariot. Lightening was created by Zeus. Athena was the goddess of war, same as Ares..Bachhus, the god of wine..etc. There was a god for everything. That is how they explained things. How their minds, at that time, could comprehend things that were going on in the world. Basically we do the same. Man kills another man, Satan made him do it. Why are we here? God made us. Our minds NEED to know that there is another purpose for us being alive than what is most likely true: We are a fluke. A freak of nature. IMHO.

06-19-2002, 12:33 PM	#19
SomeGuy Unicorn Join Date: May 14, 2002 Location: Oklahoma, USA Age: 33 Posts: 4,238	I believe that He(God) sent Lucifer down to Hell where he became Satan because Lucifer thought he was better then God.So he gathered a group of angels that were on his side and they started a war.Of course,God won and Lucifer and his angels were sent to Hell,where Lucifer became Satan,and his angels became demons.That's how I see it.

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