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05-30-2002, 01:25 PM

BBC forces viewers to record its new sitcom
By Matt Born
(Filed: 30/05/2002)

The BBC was accused yesterday of Orwellian tactics after digital video machines in thousands of homes were switched on remotely to record Caroline Aherne's new sitcom Dossa and Joe. The move was described as the equivalent of junk mail.

Many of the 50,000 households that own TiVo machines awoke on Friday to discover that the 30-minute programme had been downloaded on to their recorders without having asked for it.

It is the first time a broadcaster has used the new technology to try to boost audiences for a show.

TiVo's selling point is its ability to "remember" to tape viewers' favourite programmes and similar shows, based on a list of preferences. However the BBC sent Dossa and Joe to all the machines regardless of preference.

Almost 1,000 messages have been posted on a web forum for TiVo users, many complaining that such "foul-mouthed rubbish" had been imposed on them.

Some were unhappy that they missed the start of the Ten O'Clock News last Thursday because the machine was still recording Dossa and Joe on BBC2. Others accused the BBC of breaching the 9pm watershed because children could watch the programme the next day.

TiVo is one of a new generation of digital video machines that record programmes on hard disk rather than tape. The BBC was able to send the episode because the machines are linked by telephone to a central database.

The BBC has high hopes for Dossa and Joe, about a retired Australian couple and starring the former Neighbours actress Anne Charleston. But the comedy, Aherne's first series since The Royle Family, has attracted fewer than 1.5 million viewers.

Granville Williams, of the Campaign for Press and Broadcasting Freedom, said: "This is an unwanted and unrequested intrusion into people's lives.

"Consumers were told that TiVo would give them greater control, yet exactly the opposite has happened here. Someone has decided, 'This is what you want to watch.' "

Sazerac · 05-30-2002, 01:44 PM

Absolutely disgraceful, MagiK!

I should hope there will be a HUGE public outcry about this. I would be infuriated if such a thing happened here.

You are right; it is something right out of Orwell.

-Sazerac

Cloudbringer · 05-30-2002, 03:14 PM

Whoa! I'd have been one of the ones sending complaints! Geez,it's bad enough they SHOW what they want but force me to tape it? [img]tongue.gif[/img] no way!

Beaumanoir · 05-30-2002, 03:19 PM

WOW! That's Terrible... And Uh, Is That Um... Legal?? Should'nt Be...

RudeDawg · 05-30-2002, 03:20 PM

Here's a TIVO representative's statement on it. [img]graemlins/idontagreeatall.gif[/img]

05-30-2002, 03:29 PM

The BBC, is supposed to be funded out of the taxpayers pocket and not allowed to engage in advertising and rubbish like this.
It’s goes against the original spirit in which the BBC was conceived, I.E to provide nationalised news, sports coverage and entertainment and education.
So they’re all a bunch of CLASS TRAITORS!!!!

05-30-2002, 03:37 PM

Oh for Goodness' sake. It's nothing LIKE George Orwell's 1984.

They are NOT monitoring civilians in their households, they are over-riding what those people record on the telly

Yes, this is disgusting behaviour indeed, but it's hardly "Big Brother"

caleb · 05-31-2002, 01:44 AM

Some guy on tv reported the same problem but it was with old M.A.S.H. episodes.

Alexander · 05-31-2002, 02:42 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by caleb:
Some guy on tv reported the same problem but it was with old M.A.S.H. episodes.

I actually approve of that - if today's children were all forced to watch M*A*S*H episodes, they'd see what good television is like, not this watered-down garbage which pollutes the airwaves nowadays.

caleb · 05-31-2002, 03:46 AM

That would be a good idea if M.A.S.H. didnt suck so much.

05-30-2002, 01:44 PM	#2
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 60 Posts: 7,387	Absolutely disgraceful, MagiK! I should hope there will be a HUGE public outcry about this. I would be infuriated if such a thing happened here. You are right; it is something right out of Orwell. -Sazerac __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

05-30-2002, 03:14 PM	#3
Cloudbringer Ironworks Moderator Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Upstate NY USA Posts: 19,737	Whoa! I'd have been one of the ones sending complaints! Geez,it's bad enough they SHOW what they want but force me to tape it? [img]tongue.gif[/img] no way! __________________ "Don't take life for granted." Animal (may he rest in peace)

05-30-2002, 03:19 PM	#4
Beaumanoir Iron Throne Cult Join Date: June 3, 2001 Location: There is no IRL, Only AFK. Age: 35 Posts: 4,896	WOW! That's Terrible... And Uh, Is That Um... Legal?? Should'nt Be... __________________ My pokemon bring all the boys to the yard, and they're like; you wanna trade cards? Damn right, I wanna trade cards, I'll trade this but not my Charizard.

05-30-2002, 03:20 PM	#5
RudeDawg 20th Level Warrior Join Date: April 9, 2001 Location: Dallas, Tx, USA Age: 55 Posts: 2,830	Here's a TIVO representative's statement on it. [img]graemlins/idontagreeatall.gif[/img] __________________ [img]\"http://home.earthlink.net/~rudedawg/images/perin14.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br />The RudeDawg, known in these Forgotten Realms as Perin LightEyes<br /><br />Think Different. Keeper of the Bunnies of Total Self Confidence <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[bunny]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/bunny.gif\" />

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05-30-2002, 01:25 PM	#1
MagiK Guest Posts: n/a	BBC forces viewers to record its new sitcom By Matt Born (Filed: 30/05/2002) The BBC was accused yesterday of Orwellian tactics after digital video machines in thousands of homes were switched on remotely to record Caroline Aherne's new sitcom Dossa and Joe. The move was described as the equivalent of junk mail. Many of the 50,000 households that own TiVo machines awoke on Friday to discover that the 30-minute programme had been downloaded on to their recorders without having asked for it. It is the first time a broadcaster has used the new technology to try to boost audiences for a show. TiVo's selling point is its ability to "remember" to tape viewers' favourite programmes and similar shows, based on a list of preferences. However the BBC sent Dossa and Joe to all the machines regardless of preference. Almost 1,000 messages have been posted on a web forum for TiVo users, many complaining that such "foul-mouthed rubbish" had been imposed on them. Some were unhappy that they missed the start of the Ten O'Clock News last Thursday because the machine was still recording Dossa and Joe on BBC2. Others accused the BBC of breaching the 9pm watershed because children could watch the programme the next day. TiVo is one of a new generation of digital video machines that record programmes on hard disk rather than tape. The BBC was able to send the episode because the machines are linked by telephone to a central database. The BBC has high hopes for Dossa and Joe, about a retired Australian couple and starring the former Neighbours actress Anne Charleston. But the comedy, Aherne's first series since The Royle Family, has attracted fewer than 1.5 million viewers. Granville Williams, of the Campaign for Press and Broadcasting Freedom, said: "This is an unwanted and unrequested intrusion into people's lives. "Consumers were told that TiVo would give them greater control, yet exactly the opposite has happened here. Someone has decided, 'This is what you want to watch.' "

05-30-2002, 03:29 PM	#6
Dramnek_Ulk Guest Posts: n/a	The BBC, is supposed to be funded out of the taxpayers pocket and not allowed to engage in advertising and rubbish like this. It’s goes against the original spirit in which the BBC was conceived, I.E to provide nationalised news, sports coverage and entertainment and education. So they’re all a bunch of CLASS TRAITORS!!!!

05-30-2002, 03:37 PM	#7
Lord Shield Guest Posts: n/a	Oh for Goodness' sake. It's nothing LIKE George Orwell's 1984. They are NOT monitoring civilians in their households, they are over-riding what those people record on the telly Yes, this is disgusting behaviour indeed, but it's hardly "Big Brother"

05-31-2002, 01:44 AM	#8
caleb Horus - Egyptian Sky God Join Date: April 10, 2001 Location: Tacoma, WA, U.S.A. Age: 39 Posts: 2,615	Some guy on tv reported the same problem but it was with old M.A.S.H. episodes.

05-31-2002, 03:46 AM	#10
caleb Horus - Egyptian Sky God Join Date: April 10, 2001 Location: Tacoma, WA, U.S.A. Age: 39 Posts: 2,615	That would be a good idea if M.A.S.H. didnt suck so much.

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