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Old 02-06-2004, 04:49 PM   #71
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Old 02-06-2004, 05:02 PM   #72
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Just want to clear up something while I have the energy :

This area in Reeka's post:

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and to those of you who like to give people the impression that you support Ironworks financially, I know that you don't. I know pretty much who gives around here and who doesn't. Let me tell you folks, you would be surprised to find out who some of the people are that give and more than shocked to find out that some people that you are sure are contributing have never, and I quote Dan, “sent a penney to help out.”
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She was speaking about one person.

(Just want to clear that up) [img]smile.gif[/img] We spoke privately about that a few Months ago.


Now. From this point forward, I want this to go to Email or PM. I'll speak with whoever wants to talk with me. But let's get this thread on topic. The only other post I wish to see reguarding this subject is from Larry, and Larry knows why [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Even CHOC is going crazy! What is happening?! I'm with Megabot, no more fights!!! [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

So sez the [img]graemlins/choc.gif[/img]

[ 02-07-2004, 12:14 AM: Message edited by: Ziroc ]
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Old 02-06-2004, 06:20 PM   #73
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Ziroc, your assesment of my posts is correct, sadly enough. Sometimes I post something that people read the wrong way. I am glad to see that I am not alone in this illness, as Reeka's post was misunderstood by me and those that I represented in my post. Your last post spelled this out, as you brought to the light that Reeka was referring to "one" person who brags about giving money, yet does not. I did not understand that from Reeka's message and therefore assumed that she was talking about knowing about the givings of every single member who had ever asked to remain private. This was the reasoning of my "second" post.

To everyone at Ironworks and The Silver River:
It is my first post that is mostly in question, and in it, I am being accused of calling Reeka a liar. People that read the post so fast that they did not understand what I had wrote thought that I was saying that Reeka was lying about donating the money. I never wrote that, nor implied it in any way, so all of this hassle and rage from the members of The Silver River was mostly unjustified.

Let me explain.

I thought that it would be silly of Ziroc to allow such a person that would donate soooo much money to this website to be bullied by an "unknown assailant". This mysterious evil person was said to be the cause of Ziroc losing his best source of income to the website donations, and who had probably given as much money into the Ironworks project as the owner himself...so I found it hard to believe that Ziroc would allow Reeka to be lost.

My exact words were,

"Since this has not happened, I am inclined to not believe your story."

Notice that this is one sentence. The first phrase, "Since this has not happened". What am I referring to here? The money? No.
I am referring to the fact that the mystery meanie has not been banned.

I thought I knew Ziroc well enough to know that he would not allow somebody to "stalk" you, and remain hidden from the moderators' eyes. Therefore, I drew judgement that it must not be true, because the person is still here and I do not know who it is to be able to stop him.


Therefore, I publically apologize to you, Reeka, for doubting your word that somebody on this forum was hassling you. I wish that it was not so, and wish that you could remain to continue your support to Ziroc, who obviously is a close friend of your's, and enjoy your communion with the Ironworks members.

I hope you can forgive my error in posting my harsh post...and I am sorry that I made you cry hard enough to have to leave work early. I did not realize that posting on a discussion forum could affect a person so strongly. I shall remember that, the next time I post a comment on this forum.


I will go a step further and apologize to Ziroc for questioning the way he runs his website. If he and Reeka have a pact that this person remain a member of IW, and she go, and we never know...that is their business and even a moderator has no business wondering "why".
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Old 02-06-2004, 09:18 PM   #74
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Larry my man, you're a good man, and Reeka is a sweet god-like chick with a kind heart. [img]smile.gif[/img] Let's all make up, and kiss the Choc, and make Memsie do a silly dance that will make his Bananna's jump. (ok, let's not, Mem)

Don't worry Larry, everyone makes mistakes. Hell, I've made many here too. We're all human, and hurt, and have feelings.
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Old 02-06-2004, 09:45 PM   #75
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Way to go Larry. [img]graemlins/awesomework.gif[/img]
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Old 02-06-2004, 11:01 PM   #76
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This was god damn good AT LAST we can get this damn thing behind us for now good work mates lol

Geeez i swear to much!!!!

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Old 02-06-2004, 11:38 PM   #77
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Geeez i swear to much!!!!
So you edited your post to tell us that, instead of cutting out the actual swearing? You're my sort of guy, Megabot

I'm glad all the ness is over, and especially happy that Larry took the time to clear things up. Nice one man [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Old 02-07-2004, 12:11 AM   #78
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Thanks for doing that, Larry. Now we can hopefully get closure on this whole episode on this thread and get it back to where it's supposed to be. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]
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Old 02-07-2004, 12:50 AM   #79
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Quote:
Originally posted by Arledrian:
quote:
Originally posted by Megabot:
Geeez i swear to much!!!!
So you edited your post to tell us that, instead of cutting out the actual swearing? You're my sort of guy, Megabot

I'm glad all the ness is over, and especially happy that Larry took the time to clear things up. Nice one man [img]smile.gif[/img]
[/QUOTE]LOL i like the swearing in that post Arledrian but some don't like swearing and it should not be used on the forum to much hehe anyway i like it!
And i did not editing my post because of it, it was some spelling errors i had to fix [img]smile.gif[/img]
And to the other thing i am happy that you told us this Larry now we might be friends again all of us Reeka, Larry and so on geez i am happy now!!!
I shall ask Reeka to post a comment here later on i dont think she will but i shall trie!!

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Old 02-07-2004, 01:00 PM   #80
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Quote:
Originally posted by Larry_OHF:
People that read the post so fast that they did not understand what I had wrote thought that I was saying that Reeka was lying about donating the money. I never wrote that, nor implied it in any way
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Originally posted by Larry_OHF (emphasis added by Bardan):
If you really did do what you said you did, Ziroc owes you public recognition and maybe benefits that no other member has, since you practically paid for all this stuff.
Apart from the bit it bold (which needs no explanation), the implication is clear. *IF* Reeka gave so much, Ziroc owes her super benefits. Reeka does not have super benefits. Therefore Reeka didn't give so much. If this is all due to a simple misunderstanding of your post, isn't it weird that every person who read it interpreted it in the same way, which is not the way you said you meant it? Come on, people aren't stupid. Half an apology and half an excuse is an excuse.

Anyway, at least you admitted and apologised for thinking she was lying about the other issue. 5/10.

Oh, and just to set the record straight, it isn't "The members of The Silver River" who are annoyed with you, but simply people who are Reeka's friends, and many are IW members too. This isn't forum vs forum, so let's not try to get into the clan mentality, eh? We've all seen what that can do. *cough*Mithril Hall*cough*

It would be unfair to make people feel like they had to side with one forum or the other, since this simply isn't the case.
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