Bards Song - Linear

Icecold · 01-07-2003, 11:37 PM

Hi I'm a new poster....on this board.

I wanted to comment regarding the bard's song. I have noticed that it only works in a straight line. If a character is even slightly around a corner it fails. Its like microwave. Line-of-sight. At level 15 its limit extends out to about 20ft.

I have read a lot of comments comparing Icewind Dale II to BGII. But IWD and BG set the two different courses for each. Both BGII and IWDII are true to their predecessors. Both styles of game are good. No complaints here.

arion windrider · 01-08-2003, 12:29 AM

welcome to iw, icecold... im not an expert with bards but their songs i heard are pretty cool...i checked my iwd2 book and nothing bout it being line of sight.. hopefully somebody could help ya with it...

Kakero · 01-08-2003, 03:21 AM

try this, when your other chaaracters are fighting the monsters, try to let your bard move in circles on your other characters. I find this helps.

9_1_6 · 01-08-2003, 10:11 AM

I don't know about bards, but I hear their songs are really cool, because they buff you up..
I just wanted to say
WWWWWWEEEEEEELLLLLCCCCCCCOOOOOOOOMMMMMEMEEEEEEEEE [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img]

LS0158 · 01-09-2003, 07:50 PM

On my game, everyone in my party within the bard's vision circle is affected. But if they turn a corner, they exit the bard's vision. This could be your problem. One thing that may help is the lingering song feat. Even if the bard stops singing, the effect of the song lasts a little longer.

karlosovic · 01-16-2003, 10:11 AM

you can even exploit it a bit (mild exploit), by playing bardsong for a round, casting a spell or 2, then playing another chord, then shooting etc. just keep strumming a chord and letting it resonate while your bard keeps fighting.
I think the 1st and 3rd bardsongs are the best.

ps. WHY cant bards use magic missile ?!?!?!?!?!?!?!

Zerephel · 01-17-2003, 04:41 PM

What is a good race for Bards?

Zbyszek · 01-19-2003, 07:56 AM

No magic missile

My Bard has high DEX and I am using her as sniper (Rapid Shot etc). At the beginning of fight I pause and use first song, then second (and the first one keeps going because of Lingering Song, then third etc...). All songs are in, I click his bow, aim and unpause. When song effects disappear I pause and repeat.
Song effects kicks in as soon as I play song and last because of Lingering song. In most cases fight is over before song effects disappear. In 95-99% of cases two songs are enough.

Sagramore · 01-19-2003, 02:23 PM

I'm not really partial to the bard class since Haer D'ealis was just so much better than my bard...But the level 11 song is real useful i heard...and to reply to karlosovic, the Lingering Song feat would be relly useful for that...unless of course somebody else already said that...then it would be not as useful to you...but anyways...Bards can't cast magic missle because...they suck!

Luvian · 01-19-2003, 04:06 PM

They can't cast magic missile, that's the trademark of the pure arcane caster, but they get some healing magic instead.

01-08-2003, 12:29 AM	#2
arion windrider Red Wizard of Thay Join Date: May 26, 2001 Location: Vancouver,Wa. Age: 55 Posts: 800	welcome to iw, icecold... im not an expert with bards but their songs i heard are pretty cool...i checked my iwd2 book and nothing bout it being line of sight.. hopefully somebody could help ya with it... __________________ \"if it aint broke dont fix it\" <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[dogrun]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/dogrun.gif\" /> <br /><b>proud member of the penguin army</b> <img border=\"0\" title=\"\" alt=\"[Smile]\" src=\"smile.gif\" />

01-08-2003, 10:11 AM	#4
9_1_6 Elminster Join Date: November 2, 2002 Location: ♣♣♣ Age: 38 Posts: 457	I don't know about bards, but I hear their songs are really cool, because they buff you up.. I just wanted to say WWWWWWEEEEEEELLLLLCCCCCCCOOOOOOOOMMMMMEMEEEEEEEEE [img]graemlins/hehe.gif[/img] __________________ <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[dancing]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/dancing.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[dancing]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/dancing.gif\" /> 9_1_6 <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[dancing]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/dancing.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[dancing]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/dancing.gif\" /> <br />LIQUID STICK PEOPLE!

01-16-2003, 10:11 AM	#6
karlosovic Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: December 1, 2002 Location: Newcastle, Australia Age: 46 Posts: 636	you can even exploit it a bit (mild exploit), by playing bardsong for a round, casting a spell or 2, then playing another chord, then shooting etc. just keep strumming a chord and letting it resonate while your bard keeps fighting. I think the 1st and 3rd bardsongs are the best. ps. WHY cant bards use magic missile ?!?!?!?!?!?!?! __________________ Sunglasses of Coolness +2<br /><br />Cernd: \"It is with great pride and pleasure that I accept this Most Valuable Player award....\"<br />(from the genius of Six of Spades)

01-17-2003, 04:41 PM	#7
Zerephel Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 22, 2002 Location: California Age: 28 Posts: 31	What is a good race for Bards? __________________ (C.I.A.) <br />Criminals In Action<br />Speak your mind fight for your rights don\'t be blind.

01-19-2003, 02:23 PM	#9
Sagramore Avatar Join Date: December 26, 2002 Location: Connecticut Age: 35 Posts: 528	I'm not really partial to the bard class since Haer D'ealis was just so much better than my bard...But the level 11 song is real useful i heard...and to reply to karlosovic, the Lingering Song feat would be relly useful for that...unless of course somebody else already said that...then it would be not as useful to you...but anyways...Bards can't cast magic missle because...they suck! __________________ \"\'Fleshy, honey\' the paladin said, \'Yes, baby\' said the golem\"<br /><br />I have seen the others and I have discovered that this fight is not worth fighting<br /><br /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[pimpser]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/pimpser.gif\" />

01-07-2003, 11:37 PM	#1
Icecold Welcomed New User Join Date: December 26, 2002 Location: OZ Age: 52 Posts: 1	Hi I'm a new poster....on this board. I wanted to comment regarding the bard's song. I have noticed that it only works in a straight line. If a character is even slightly around a corner it fails. Its like microwave. Line-of-sight. At level 15 its limit extends out to about 20ft. I have read a lot of comments comparing Icewind Dale II to BGII. But IWD and BG set the two different courses for each. Both BGII and IWDII are true to their predecessors. Both styles of game are good. No complaints here.

01-08-2003, 03:21 AM	#3
Kakero 40th Level Warrior Join Date: March 24, 2002 Posts: 10,215	try this, when your other chaaracters are fighting the monsters, try to let your bard move in circles on your other characters. I find this helps.

01-09-2003, 07:50 PM	#5
LS0158 Zhentarim Guard Join Date: November 11, 2002 Location: North Carolina Age: 65 Posts: 351	On my game, everyone in my party within the bard's vision circle is affected. But if they turn a corner, they exit the bard's vision. This could be your problem. One thing that may help is the lingering song feat. Even if the bard stops singing, the effect of the song lasts a little longer.

01-19-2003, 07:56 AM	#8
Zbyszek Avatar Join Date: August 27, 2001 Location: Poznan, Poland Posts: 575	No magic missile My Bard has high DEX and I am using her as sniper (Rapid Shot etc). At the beginning of fight I pause and use first song, then second (and the first one keeps going because of Lingering Song, then third etc...). All songs are in, I click his bow, aim and unpause. When song effects disappear I pause and repeat. Song effects kicks in as soon as I play song and last because of Lingering song. In most cases fight is over before song effects disappear. In 95-99% of cases two songs are enough.

01-19-2003, 04:06 PM	#10
Luvian Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 27, 2001 Location: Montreal, Quebec, Canada Age: 43 Posts: 6,763	They can't cast magic missile, that's the trademark of the pure arcane caster, but they get some healing magic instead. __________________ Once upon a time in Canada...

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