Best level for assasin->mage dual

Iron Greasel · 06-06-2006, 01:57 PM

At which levels do I get bigger backstab multipliers and more poison weapons? How long should I wait before plunging into magehood? Planning to play with a full party.

SixOfSpades · 06-06-2006, 04:33 PM

The Assassin's Backstab multiplier increases every 4 levels: 1, 5, 9, 13, 17, and 21. These are also the levels at which their Saving Throws improve. It obviously just makes sense to Dual at one of these levels. Dualing to a Mage much beyond that point is not a viable option under the EXP cap, as you'd never be able to regain your Assassin half.

As to which level you should Dual at, that's up to you. I'll tell you how the game works, but not how to play it.

Dundee Slaytern · 06-06-2006, 11:16 PM

Well, the allure of the Assassin lies in its' x7 backstab modifier. Under the 8,000,000xp Cap, you can get a 21->24 Assassin->Mage.

Pros:

Lots of cheese potential
"Melf's Minute Meteors + Poison Weapon"
"The Army Scythe + Improved Haste + Bolts of Biting + Poison Weapon" Throw in a Greater Malison for greater effect
"Time Stop + Mislead + Improved Haste" is just sick
Etc...

Cons:

No Rogue HLAs
Only 7 Wizard HLAs
Limited Mage levels
Etc...

EDIT] Tag amendments. Urgh... being a member on multiple forums with multiple systems can be confusing sometimes.

[ 06-06-2006, 11:17 PM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

Iron Greasel · 06-07-2006, 03:38 AM

Thank you for the information!

True_Moose · 06-07-2006, 01:34 PM

If you dual at level 21, you'll get the x7 backstab modifier, and you'll miss out on one level 8 and one level 9 spell slot (as well as 4 mage HLAs.) If you dual at level 17, you will get 3 more HLAs, as well as another level 9 spell slot, but only a x6 backstab modifier.

Assassin · 06-07-2006, 11:14 PM

If you're playing with a party, I'd suggest you just keep on playing as an Assasin. They're so... rewarding.

Also, keep in mind that you won't be able to explore the full capabilities of your character (regain Assassin abilities) until very, very late in the game if you dual too late.

If you're dead set on dualling, I'd just play it out until you're comfortable with the backstab damage and your thief skills, then dual.

06-06-2006, 01:57 PM	#1
Iron Greasel Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 13, 2004 Location: Finland Age: 35 Posts: 1,701	At which levels do I get bigger backstab multipliers and more poison weapons? How long should I wait before plunging into magehood? Planning to play with a full party. __________________

06-06-2006, 04:33 PM	#2
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 46 Posts: 6,901	The Assassin's Backstab multiplier increases every 4 levels: 1, 5, 9, 13, 17, and 21. These are also the levels at which their Saving Throws improve. It obviously just makes sense to Dual at one of these levels. Dualing to a Mage much beyond that point is not a viable option under the EXP cap, as you'd never be able to regain your Assassin half. As to which level you should Dual at, that's up to you. I'll tell you how the game works, but not how to play it. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

06-06-2006, 11:16 PM	#3
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Well, the allure of the Assassin lies in its' x7 backstab modifier. Under the 8,000,000xp Cap, you can get a 21->24 Assassin->Mage. Pros: Lots of cheese potential "Melf's Minute Meteors + Poison Weapon" "The Army Scythe + Improved Haste + Bolts of Biting + Poison Weapon" Throw in a Greater Malison for greater effect "Time Stop + Mislead + Improved Haste" is just sick Etc... Cons: No Rogue HLAs Only 7 Wizard HLAs Limited Mage levels Etc... EDIT] Tag amendments. Urgh... being a member on multiple forums with multiple systems can be confusing sometimes. [ 06-06-2006, 11:17 PM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

06-07-2006, 03:38 AM	#4
Iron Greasel Fzoul Chembryl Join Date: July 13, 2004 Location: Finland Age: 35 Posts: 1,701	Thank you for the information! __________________

06-07-2006, 11:14 PM	#6
Assassin Symbol of Cyric Join Date: March 23, 2003 Location: Canada Age: 36 Posts: 1,134	If you're playing with a party, I'd suggest you just keep on playing as an Assasin. They're so... rewarding. Also, keep in mind that you won't be able to explore the full capabilities of your character (regain Assassin abilities) until very, very late in the game if you dual too late. If you're dead set on dualling, I'd just play it out until you're comfortable with the backstab damage and your thief skills, then dual. __________________ In The Terminator, Sarah Connor is told a speech by John Connor\'s father that John has given in the future. When John is born, Sarah tells John this speech, and John grows up to tell it in the future. So who wrote the speech?!

06-07-2006, 01:34 PM	#5
True_Moose Gold Dragon Join Date: June 18, 2002 Location: Wolfville, NS / Calgary, AB Age: 36 Posts: 2,563	If you dual at level 21, you'll get the x7 backstab modifier, and you'll miss out on one level 8 and one level 9 spell slot (as well as 4 mage HLAs.) If you dual at level 17, you will get 3 more HLAs, as well as another level 9 spell slot, but only a x6 backstab modifier.

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