my party (maybe need help)

Meriadoc Brandybuck · 09-09-2002, 03:55 AM

Half Orc Barbarian
20 16 18 10 6 4
Concentration 2
Wilderness Lore 4
Great Sword

Plan: Pure Barbarian Bonus Points Are going all to STR, Will learn Mostly Combat Feat!

Shield Dwarf Fighter
18 14 20 10 8 6
Concentration
Axe
Power Attack

Plan: Like Barbarian - Maybe 2 Axes soon, Heavy Armor

Thiefling Rogue
16 20 14 14 6 8
Disarm 4
Hide 4
Move 4
Open 4
Search 4
Use Devices 4
Dodge

Plan Thief, Disarmer, Backstabber ...

Human Battleguard
16 10 16 4 18 12
*didn't know*

Thiefling Wizard
14 16 16 20 6 6
Alchemy 4
Concentration 4
Hide 2
Knowledge 4
Move 2
Spellcraft 4
Penetration
Penetration

Thiefling Rogue /Fighter 18 12 14 12 8 14
Bluff 4
Diplomacy 4
Intimity 4
Concentration 2
Use Device 4
Merchant

Plan: Interactor - Heavy Armor soon!!

the last one is my 'Paladin' he interacts with all Persons (Thief Skill Bonus)

Whats the Problem:
I'm now Level 4-5 and can barely survive 2 Battles - i'm now at the Goblin Fortress - Difficult Settings are Medium
What goes Wrong - Can anybody points out a mistake ?

What are u Charater Stats ?

Warhammer · 09-09-2002, 04:13 AM

My party is in another post. I mauled through chapters 1, 2 and 3 without problem.

The problem I see in your party is a waaay too low wisdom on your tanks, they will get held, confused, charmed, dominated and controlled so often you'll despair.

Vornae · 09-10-2002, 01:13 AM

The goblin fortest was a slow one for me but that was cause I was having the same problem of barely surveing two battles as well. what i ended up doing was after every major battle going back to the ranger at the bottem SW corner and resting and saving and then going back for the next part of the fight. The biggest part of the that fight ofr me was not letting the shamans get to those bloody drums.

Vornae

ratchild · 09-10-2002, 03:12 PM

The goblin fortress is probably the single hardest area of the game i've run into so far. (course, i'm only in chapter 2 or 3) Your party is pretty average, but if you're in the mood for restarting, you might want to take fewer Tieflings your first time around, as the level penalty hurts, especially on spellcaster types.

Baldassare · 09-10-2002, 10:10 PM

I used haste and some speedy characters to get to the drums first. The last thing you need is enemies popping up every 2 seconds.

Vornae · 09-11-2002, 12:39 AM

Or if you have a druid and rogue you can use the rogue to scout out the drums and try to get the druid close enough to cast their thorn plant spell( not sure of name). The drums take dmg form the plants and the shamans will not go near them. Shrug just another suggetion.

Vornae

Darth Vader · 09-11-2002, 01:18 AM

I would also sujest a druid and or cleric after all every assault squad needs a medic.

[ 09-11-2002, 01:20 AM: Message edited by: Darth Vader ]

Hawklyn Starblade · 09-11-2002, 07:13 AM

Well my party is 2 Rangers 1 Fighter 1 Theif 1 Palidan & 1 Cleric..

And I only had a little trouble with the ice trolls comein out when i try and rest considering you have to hit 10+ just to hurt them and they do so much damage. So I guess you should restart But your group I would like to test myself after I beat the goblin caves myself...
Hope your group work out.

And I have had my fighter and the 2 rangers go and destroy the drums while my cleric throws her magical returning hammer and my thief throws his magical returning axe and the paly swings his masterwork bastersword at the goblins that come near the thief or cleric & after the camp is dead I took all there stuff Saved then tryed resting... If the first rest didnt work I loaded and tryed again thats how I got past the fights.

I only had to restart once because of a bug my characters had but luckily I had enother Save befor the bug.

{Hawklyn Starblade}

[ 09-11-2002, 07:20 AM: Message edited by: Hawklyn Starblade ]

DraconisRex · 09-11-2002, 08:37 AM

Well, I can see some problems. They aren't serious, but they are problems.

1. It looks like you're relying on offense vis-a-vis defense for melee combat purposes. (Two-handed weapons vs weapon + shield.) If you're fighting four goblins, you may save one, possibly two MR due to the extra damage. But, you're going to be hit quite a few more times.
2. You're light on healing power, having just one cleric, no paladin, no druid.
3. You're light on hit points with two rogues and two mages.

Magness · 09-11-2002, 11:51 AM

Another thing.

It may not be "role-playing", but I always make certain that all party members are able to engage with ranged weapons. You'll take less damage in the long run if you can take down some enemy melee fighters before they can get "up close and personal". Also, if you run into some spell casters, you're wasting time trying to run to them. It's better fire off a volley of missiles ASAP. You may disrupt their spells. You may also take some down. Never overlook ranged weapons.

Also, to my surprise, I've discovered that 3rd ed DnD rules now allow wizards and clerics to use weapons that they weren't allowed in the ADnD rules. Now, I have my cleric armed with the best (currently available) crossbow and she rocks. I switched her sling to my dwarven tank, so that he can use it with a shield. His hammer (or axe) is still his primary weapon, but being able to wield a sling/shield allows him to be a little better protected if he really need to keep slinging.

One note, while there are plenty of good darts out there, be leary about using them because they are much shorter ranged than bows or xbows or slings. My wizard was using all the +1 darts that I picked up for a while, until I realized that every time without fail, the wizard had to charge forward, in front of my tanks, to get in dart range. This was unacceptable. Back to the sling. I do keep a returning dart around for the wizard, just in case I run out of ammo.

FYI, my party (in marching order) is as follows:

TANK: Aasimar paladin (f): long sword, mace, xbow
TANK: Dwarven fighter (m): hammer, axe, sling, throwing hammers
SNIPER & #2 MAGE: Elven Bard (m): short sword, bow
SNIPER & ROGUE: Human Rogue (f): dagger, bow
#1 MAGE: Elven Wizard (m): staff, sling, returning dart
MEDIC & 3rd TANK: Human Cleric (f): mace, xbow

I think that I have a nice mix of capabilities in this party.

09-10-2002, 03:12 PM	#4
ratchild Manshoon Join Date: January 7, 2002 Location: boulder, co Age: 45 Posts: 241	The goblin fortress is probably the single hardest area of the game i've run into so far. (course, i'm only in chapter 2 or 3) Your party is pretty average, but if you're in the mood for restarting, you might want to take fewer Tieflings your first time around, as the level penalty hurts, especially on spellcaster types. __________________ Freedom is the distance between government and religion

09-10-2002, 10:10 PM	#5
Baldassare Dungeon Master Join Date: January 20, 2002 Location: Baton Rouge LA Age: 52 Posts: 55	I used haste and some speedy characters to get to the drums first. The last thing you need is enemies popping up every 2 seconds. __________________ Through the 12th Gate I approach.

09-11-2002, 01:18 AM	#7
Darth Vader Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: September 9, 2002 Location: west texas Age: 58 Posts: 5	I would also sujest a druid and or cleric after all every assault squad needs a medic. [ 09-11-2002, 01:20 AM: Message edited by: Darth Vader ] __________________ You Don\'t Know the Power of the Dark side

09-11-2002, 08:37 AM	#9
DraconisRex Avatar Join Date: January 4, 2002 Location: On my rear-end. Posts: 563	Well, I can see some problems. They aren't serious, but they are problems. 1. It looks like you're relying on offense vis-a-vis defense for melee combat purposes. (Two-handed weapons vs weapon + shield.) If you're fighting four goblins, you may save one, possibly two MR due to the extra damage. But, you're going to be hit quite a few more times. 2. You're light on healing power, having just one cleric, no paladin, no druid. 3. You're light on hit points with two rogues and two mages. __________________ Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?<br /><br />Vah! Denuone Latine loquebar? Me ineptum. Interdum modo elabitur.<br /><br />Di! Ecce hora! Uxor mea me necabit!

Similar Threads
Thread	Thread Starter	Forum	Replies	Last Post
Is a 5 person party a viable option (and please comment on my party)?	krunchyfrogg	Baldurs Gate II: Shadows of Amn & Throne of Bhaal	5	02-16-2004 12:28 AM
Party advice: Cheesy oriental party.	Indemaijinj	Baldurs Gate II: Shadows of Amn & Throne of Bhaal	7	09-11-2003 05:12 AM
Small party experts, this party good?	Bomb	Miscellaneous Games (RPG or not)	30	08-20-2002 03:24 PM
WHAT IS THE BEST, AND I MEAN BEST PARTY?? WHAT PARTY HAS MOST CHANCES OF SURVIVING WI	el_kalkylus	Baldurs Gate II Archives	60	03-18-2001 10:04 PM
Come grab a tasty Worgur Burger, or grab some Scabban Party Mix for YOUR party!!	freudianslip	Wizards & Warriors Archives	0	11-16-2000 01:43 PM

09-09-2002, 03:55 AM	#1
Meriadoc Brandybuck Manshoon Join Date: October 11, 2001 Location: The Shire Age: 46 Posts: 180	Half Orc Barbarian 20 16 18 10 6 4 Concentration 2 Wilderness Lore 4 Great Sword Plan: Pure Barbarian Bonus Points Are going all to STR, Will learn Mostly Combat Feat! Shield Dwarf Fighter 18 14 20 10 8 6 Concentration Axe Power Attack Plan: Like Barbarian - Maybe 2 Axes soon, Heavy Armor Thiefling Rogue 16 20 14 14 6 8 Disarm 4 Hide 4 Move 4 Open 4 Search 4 Use Devices 4 Dodge Plan Thief, Disarmer, Backstabber ... Human Battleguard 16 10 16 4 18 12 didn't know Thiefling Wizard 14 16 16 20 6 6 Alchemy 4 Concentration 4 Hide 2 Knowledge 4 Move 2 Spellcraft 4 Penetration Penetration Thiefling Rogue /Fighter 18 12 14 12 8 14 Bluff 4 Diplomacy 4 Intimity 4 Concentration 2 Use Device 4 Merchant Plan: Interactor - Heavy Armor soon!! the last one is my 'Paladin' he interacts with all Persons (Thief Skill Bonus) Whats the Problem: I'm now Level 4-5 and can barely survive 2 Battles - i'm now at the Goblin Fortress - Difficult Settings are Medium What goes Wrong - Can anybody points out a mistake ? What are u Charater Stats ? __________________ no i\'m not a multiple class character<br /><br />i\'m just schizophrenic

09-09-2002, 04:13 AM	#2
Warhammer Baaz Draconian Join Date: December 4, 2001 Location: Denmark Age: 51 Posts: 731	My party is in another post. I mauled through chapters 1, 2 and 3 without problem. The problem I see in your party is a waaay too low wisdom on your tanks, they will get held, confused, charmed, dominated and controlled so often you'll despair. __________________ It was a new day yesterday<br />but it\'s an old day now.<br /><i>Jethro Tull</i><br />

09-10-2002, 01:13 AM	#3
Vornae Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: September 5, 2002 Location: USA Age: 55 Posts: 16	The goblin fortest was a slow one for me but that was cause I was having the same problem of barely surveing two battles as well. what i ended up doing was after every major battle going back to the ranger at the bottem SW corner and resting and saving and then going back for the next part of the fight. The biggest part of the that fight ofr me was not letting the shamans get to those bloody drums. Vornae

09-11-2002, 12:39 AM	#6
Vornae Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: September 5, 2002 Location: USA Age: 55 Posts: 16	Or if you have a druid and rogue you can use the rogue to scout out the drums and try to get the druid close enough to cast their thorn plant spell( not sure of name). The drums take dmg form the plants and the shamans will not go near them. Shrug just another suggetion. Vornae

09-11-2002, 07:13 AM	#8
Hawklyn Starblade Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: July 5, 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 5	Well my party is 2 Rangers 1 Fighter 1 Theif 1 Palidan & 1 Cleric.. And I only had a little trouble with the ice trolls comein out when i try and rest considering you have to hit 10+ just to hurt them and they do so much damage. So I guess you should restart But your group I would like to test myself after I beat the goblin caves myself... Hope your group work out. And I have had my fighter and the 2 rangers go and destroy the drums while my cleric throws her magical returning hammer and my thief throws his magical returning axe and the paly swings his masterwork bastersword at the goblins that come near the thief or cleric & after the camp is dead I took all there stuff Saved then tryed resting... If the first rest didnt work I loaded and tryed again thats how I got past the fights. I only had to restart once because of a bug my characters had but luckily I had enother Save befor the bug. {Hawklyn Starblade} [ 09-11-2002, 07:20 AM: Message edited by: Hawklyn Starblade ]

09-11-2002, 11:51 AM	#10
Magness Quintesson Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Manchester, NH, USA Posts: 1,025	Another thing. It may not be "role-playing", but I always make certain that all party members are able to engage with ranged weapons. You'll take less damage in the long run if you can take down some enemy melee fighters before they can get "up close and personal". Also, if you run into some spell casters, you're wasting time trying to run to them. It's better fire off a volley of missiles ASAP. You may disrupt their spells. You may also take some down. Never overlook ranged weapons. Also, to my surprise, I've discovered that 3rd ed DnD rules now allow wizards and clerics to use weapons that they weren't allowed in the ADnD rules. Now, I have my cleric armed with the best (currently available) crossbow and she rocks. I switched her sling to my dwarven tank, so that he can use it with a shield. His hammer (or axe) is still his primary weapon, but being able to wield a sling/shield allows him to be a little better protected if he really need to keep slinging. One note, while there are plenty of good darts out there, be leary about using them because they are much shorter ranged than bows or xbows or slings. My wizard was using all the +1 darts that I picked up for a while, until I realized that every time without fail, the wizard had to charge forward, in front of my tanks, to get in dart range. This was unacceptable. Back to the sling. I do keep a returning dart around for the wizard, just in case I run out of ammo. FYI, my party (in marching order) is as follows: TANK: Aasimar paladin (f): long sword, mace, xbow TANK: Dwarven fighter (m): hammer, axe, sling, throwing hammers SNIPER & #2 MAGE: Elven Bard (m): short sword, bow SNIPER & ROGUE: Human Rogue (f): dagger, bow #1 MAGE: Elven Wizard (m): staff, sling, returning dart MEDIC & 3rd TANK: Human Cleric (f): mace, xbow I think that I have a nice mix of capabilities in this party.

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)