10-16-2002, 01:11 PM | #71 | |
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Another stumbling block in my ideas is the question : What happens to matter once it achieves the speed of light i.e if it ever can ? |
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10-16-2002, 01:13 PM | #72 | |
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if by motion you are referring to us seeing things moving so we know "time" is passing I don't agree to be honest. However, you can be in a quiet room for some time and duration will still pass. Things will still change that you cannot see (light moving, air particles, the blood in your body flowing, etc...). This defines change which i think defines man's perception of time |
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10-16-2002, 01:18 PM | #73 | |
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if by motion you are referring to us seeing things moving so we know "time" is passing I don't agree to be honest. However, you can be in a quiet room for some time and duration will still pass. Things will still change that you cannot see (light moving, air particles, the blood in your body flowing, etc...). This defines change which i think defines man's perception of time[/QUOTE]Yes change is what i was referring to .... perhaps we should meet considering that we have quite similar ideas ....... |
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10-16-2002, 03:48 PM | #74 | |
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Also, just to clarify, the curvature around a black hole is continuos right up to the singularity, and follows all of Newton's laws to the letter. According to Newton an object may be considered as a single point anyway, so if the sun were to collapse into a black hole tommorrow we would never know the difference in terms of gravity. Only the light would be missed. |
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10-17-2002, 05:27 AM | #75 |
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Its a good and healthy discussion so people "should" see and read it. Im my opinion it deservers the first page |
10-17-2002, 06:18 AM | #76 | |
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10-17-2002, 09:11 AM | #77 | |
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Because you have mass you won't actually accelerate to C, and long before you reach relativistic speeds you'll pass through the Event Horizon of the singularity. At this point any light that illuminates you and your ship will be captured by the singularity, therefore you won't be seen in this universe again (with one possible exception I'll talk about in a minute). The theory of how you would look as you approach the event horizon however is strikingly similar to your idea. The theory is that an outside observer will see you slow as you approach the event horizon (due to the distortion of space by the black hole) and you will appear to stop, frozen just before you pass the singularity. Now at the same time less and less light is illuminating you and escaping so you'll be getting dimmer, AND what light does escape will be redshifted by the gravitational forces... so it could be that the outside observer will just see you fade away in red before you reach the horizon. Once your at the singularity and all squished into the size of an atom nucleus, there's a theory that some of you might be able to escape the hole through the use of Quantum Physics and the wave nature of Particles. Apparently there's a probability that a particle of you will exist outside the event horizon, so they call it an Imaginary Particle (or something like that) and give it a Probability distribution of being real. So for every X of imaginary particles that COULD escape the black hole during time t, some percentage DOES. Sounds weird but there's real applications of this principal in use today. Tunneling Diodes use this basic principal to operate. What this means is that once a Black Hole sucks in all the matter it can get, it will slowly die. This universe is stranger than we know |
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10-18-2002, 04:46 AM | #78 | |
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I love this discussion too. Very very interesting. [img]smile.gif[/img] |
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