AudioGalaxy shut down

[Deathcow]

Magik, heres the Dark Side of Audiogalaxy [img]smile.gif[/img]

my brother has over 10 GIGS of mp3's!!! and he only owns about 20 cds that he actually bought

he stopped buying them when he learned that he could download them and make his own cds for much cheaper, lol

ive got about 200 cds, i guess...not worth the effort of counting [img]tongue.gif[/img]

[Sir Goulum]

Originally posted by Deathcow: Magik, heres the Dark Side of Audiogalaxy [img]smile.gif[/img] my brother has over 10 GIGS of mp3's!!! and he only owns about 20 cds that he actually bought he stopped buying them when he learned that he could download them and make his own cds for much cheaper, lol ive got about 200 cds, i guess...not worth the effort of counting [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I'd rather be your brother! 200 cds? Ick

[Deathcow]

Originally posted by Sir Goulum: quote: Originally posted by Deathcow: Magik, heres the Dark Side of Audiogalaxy [img]smile.gif[/img] my brother has over 10 GIGS of mp3's!!! and he only owns about 20 cds that he actually bought he stopped buying them when he learned that he could download them and make his own cds for much cheaper, lol ive got about 200 cds, i guess...not worth the effort of counting [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I'd rather be your brother! 200 cds? Ick[/QUOTE]ha! ive got 2 cd racks, holding 125 each, the second one isnt quite full...theyre all alphabetized so its easy to find what i want

however, its a pain to re-alphabetize it when i buy new cds lol...i usually make a stack of new cds next to it until i get around to re-organizing it [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Memnoch]

Originally posted by Leonis: Hey, just thought I'd say before anyone posts any info, that you may break the ToS in doing so... quote: No Piracy: DO NOT post links to 'warez sites'. Do not discuss pirating games, bragging about pirating or anything else. This will get your account suspended or banned. The only possible thing you CAN discuss is the so-called 'cracks' for no CD operation. SOME Games don't work on some peoples CD-ROM's. This is because of a special copy protection called 'Safe Disc'. But that is it. Anything else is considered pirating.

We don't want anyone getting in trouble here. You may need to resort to other methods to discuss this?[/QUOTE]This is obviously a divisive issue, and I'm not convinced whether it should be on this forum - I will let Ziroc make the call on it. Personally, I'm prepared to keep it open, since it is obviously a newsworthy event - so people can INTELLIGENTLY discuss the merits/pros/cons of the issue. We were able to INTELLIGENTLY discuss the Napster closure here a year ago.

But I don't want to see ANY links to alternative download sites posted here - that will get this thread locked. If people want to find an alternative to Audiogalaxy I'd rather they used other means to do it.

People who post here bragging about how much free music they've ripped off from these sites will probably be suspended. Only post here if you intend to debate this intelligently.

If Z decides to lock the thread due to content anyway, well that's out of my hands. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 06-18-2002, 10:33 PM: Message edited by: Memnoch ]

[Grojlach]

Originally posted by Deathcow: Magik, heres the Dark Side of Audiogalaxy [img]smile.gif[/img] my brother has over 10 GIGS of mp3's!!! and he only owns about 20 cds that he actually bought he stopped buying them when he learned that he could download them and make his own cds for much cheaper, lol ive got about 200 cds, i guess...not worth the effort of counting [img]tongue.gif[/img]

*Disapproving glance*
I just hope your brother only has that much music because he's still too young or not substantial enough to buy real CD's, cause otherwise he's the kind of guy who is giving Napster and AudioGalaxy the bad reputation that they have now.

[ 06-19-2002, 03:31 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]

[Grojlach]

Originally posted by Memnoch: If Z decides to lock the thread due to content anyway, well that's out of my hands. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Here's to hoping he allows us to continue to debate. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[ 06-19-2002, 03:37 AM: Message edited by: Grojlach ]

[Earthdog]

I cant say that it bothers me any. I never could get the dang thing to even connect. Not even after a year of trying various versions of it. Versions that came on various computer magazine discs also failed me.

Like they say, if ya dont have it youll never miss it. Thats the case with me.

[Grojlach]

Originally posted by Earthdog: I cant say that it bothers me any. I never could get the dang thing to even connect. Not even after a year of trying various versions of it. Versions that came on various computer magazine discs also failed me. Like they say, if ya dont have it youll never miss it. Thats the case with me.

I've heard that before... It could be your firewall doesn't permit it.

[Leonis]

Originally posted by Grojlach: I completely agree with Dramnek here. And yes, I'm one of those persons who didn't only start buying more CD's because of Napster/AudioGalaxy, but also expanded his taste drastically to a point that any billboard chart music is just not interesting at all anymore. Like Dramnek said, the record companies are only trying to place it the safe way and keep coming up with things they think the people want, the same old boyband/teenage singer/nu metalband/r&b or hiphopact/etc. over and over and over again. Cliche after cliche, and since many people's tastes are heavily influenced by the music which is often played on the radio and tv, these big record companies are actually deciding what's "hot" or not. The many bands who never get any exposure at all on radio and tv may get incredibly good album reviews, hardly anyone is actually going to head to the record store (in the hope it can even be found there!) to listen to a sample of the music, at least not as many people who get Britney Spears stuffed in their face day after day. Now however there's suddenly the mp3, and even more interesting, the mp3 filesharing program. Music fans now have the ability to download those songs from artists (especially signed by smaller or independent record companies) they've read about but never really had a good opportunity to check out, because the acts from the bigger companies take up all the radio and tv airplay and/or the CD's are hard to find. People get to listen this hardly ever played music more often because of the mp3s and instead of buying the CD's the bigger companies used to stuff in their face, they decide to buy CD's from those smaller acts instead. Big companies get pissed and start lawsuits, while smaller acts get more publicity than they would ever had in the old situation. Examples of bands of whom I don't think they would have become really big in the old situation: Rammstein, Blink 182, the entire nu metal wave. And those are just the acts which were overtaken and cloned by the bigger companies soon thereafter (and also acts I don't really like, but alas ). As for myself? My taste has changed drastically over the past few years, starting 3 years ago with Napster, from middle-of-the-road rock to way more varied and experimental music. Only last month I have bought CD's from bands like Motorpsycho, Beulah, De Kift, The Notwist, Pavement, Queens of the Stone Age, And you will know us by the trail of dead, Sonic Youth, Sunny Day Real Estate, Einstürzende Neubauten. And earlier on CD's from acts like Seafood, Fireside, Godspeed You Black Emperor!, Sigur Ros, Fiona Apple, Autopulver, Caesar, Low, Sparklehorse, Pinback and Day One. And the list goes on and on... And you know what? Most of those acts I'd never even have gone into if there weren't mp3s of them available online. And I'm just one of many music fans... And yes, Leonis, it's illegal. But if you just look upon it from a neutral perspective, it's only harmful for the big record companies who don't care about signing and promoting original acts but try to focus on the category of people who don't really like music in the first place, or are still too young to look beyond boybands or shameless coverversions of older hitsongs. The big record companies are the ones with the monopoly position when it comes to radio/tv airplay, and they like to keep it that way on the Internet as well. Both Napster and AudioGalaxy have done miracles for the smaller record companies and many beginning acts, as it was the best publicity for them they could never have dreamed of in the pre-Napster period. [img]smile.gif[/img]

Grojlach, I wasn't commenting on the legality issue but the fact that posters may have got in trouble with the Mods for breaking the Terms of Service (ToS).
I personally have bought over 500 CDs (currently have about 350), 100's of cassettes (now about 30) and about 50 Vinyl (large round shellack disks read using a diamond needle )
I have also obtained music much in the same way as we are talking about.
I'm also a musician and everyday face the debilitating prospects for artists in Australia due to the record companies, the government AND the public.
What is of major concern is the 'new breed' of music listeners - the under 15s who have grown up with the internet and believe no one's Intellectual Property should be paid for.
How's this? One of my own bother-in-laws has never bought a CD in his life, but has hundereds and hundereds of illegal mp3s. Not so bad? He also burns them to CD and sells them to his friends!!!
All the while knowing how tough I'm doing it as a muso! I told him it's affecting me and he just shrugs. It's not that he doesn't care about me either, it's that he has no perception of the value of someone else's creation, whether it's music, film, software etc... If it's not 'solid' - if it can be turned into 0s and 1s, it should be free. This is because his culture entrenched him in these patterns before he's gotten to the point of earning money for himself and equating working for an hour with obtaining an album.

Neutral perspective? Mate, I've been shafted hard core by a major record label. But I'm also being shafted hard core by a selfish, thieving online culture.
Don't get me wrong here, I love the positives of mp3s, wavs etc...their convenience, sharing and discovery potential, their use in subverting coporate agenda etc. I even put some of my stuff up for people to listen to for free. It's here.
I just think if people are going to take, they should give some back...

[ 06-19-2002, 09:40 AM: Message edited by: Leonis ]

Originally posted by Deathcow: Magik, heres the Dark Side of Audiogalaxy [img]smile.gif[/img] my brother has over 10 GIGS of mp3's!!! and he only owns about 20 cds that he actually bought he stopped buying them when he learned that he could download them and make his own cds for much cheaper, lol ive got about 200 cds, i guess...not worth the effort of counting [img]tongue.gif[/img]

See this is my point exactly, so instead of a few recording companies gouging the artist, we have millions of kids who haveno money to spend gouging the artist. All the guys I know at work who download music, do not bother with buying CD's or tapes. Why should they? They get it all "free". Which is why Im still trying to figure out why the laws that make sure you have to pay for the product are a bad thing.