paladins discriminate

khazadman · 02-07-2002, 07:46 PM

why do they still have this silly humans only limitation on paladins?and lawfull good at that.i understand that tdd has the anti-paladin class but why not a dwarven paladin?someone needs to talk to the people who create these things.i mean,who can be more self righteous that an elf?

dizzy · 02-07-2002, 08:57 PM

me an a vowed paladin!

Nerull · 02-07-2002, 10:10 PM

quote:
Originally posted by khazadman:
why do they still have this silly humans only limitation on paladins?and lawfull good at that.i understand that tdd has the anti-paladin class but why not a dwarven paladin?someone needs to talk to the people who create these things.i mean,who can be more self righteous that an elf?

Unfortunately, the game is based on the AD&D 2nd edition (where humans only can be paladins). In the third edition pnp game, any race can be any class, and can advance to any level (humans get extra abilities to make them on par with their non-human counterparts, evening out everything). Pool of Radiance II is based off of the third edition rules.

Harry · 02-07-2002, 10:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by khazadman:
why do they still have this silly humans only limitation on paladins?and lawfull good at that.i understand that tdd has the anti-paladin class but why not a dwarven paladin?someone needs to talk to the people who create these things.i mean,who can be more self righteous that an elf?

you sound like nalia saying that

khazadman · 02-08-2002, 11:40 AM

hey,no need to insult me.i just prefer dwarven characters and would love to run a dwarven paladin.

Azred · 02-08-2002, 11:50 AM

You could always download Shadowkeeper and change the race and avatar of your paladin to Dwarf. The computer won't mind. Honest!

Jerr Conner · 02-08-2002, 03:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Azred:
You could always download Shadowkeeper and change the race and avatar of your paladin to Dwarf. The computer won't mind. Honest!

Lol! I was going to suggest that.

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Morgeruat · 02-08-2002, 03:43 PM

well, first of all dwarves can't get the required charisma to be a paladin, they have a max of 17 BEFORE racial adjustment, they can get a 16 Chr. max, elves are a bit more problematic, for one they're normally chaotic manner makes them ill suited to devote themselves to the fight against chaos and evil, plus the idea of paladinhood is one unique to humans, while other races have differing views of what an archetypical hero would be, for elves this comes in the form of a bladesinger normally. while a dwarven hero would be much more of a fighter type rather than the strict focus on spirituality that a human paladin would have, in fact of all the demihuman races (elf dwarf, gnome etc.) only halflings approach this with anywhere near the kind of mindset a human would have, and theirs is much more laid-back(Mazzy is an example).

In Dragonlance however elves, and half-elves are the only non-human races that can be Paladins, why this is allowed is up to the designers of that world, much like allowing elven druids in forgotten realms, a practice normally restricted to humans and 1/2 elves, and the occasional green-bearded dwarf (see the Cleric Quintet by R.A. Salvatore)

jabidas · 02-09-2002, 05:20 PM

Yeah those sick puritanical scum. They discriminate against the undead as well, how twisted is that. I demand we make a petition for equal rights for the undead and an immediate ban on those vicous racists the ''undead hunters'', bloddy monsters.

Antagonist · 02-09-2002, 05:33 PM

If you have a PS2, in dark alliance you don't have to be human to be a paladin.
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02-07-2002, 08:57 PM	#2
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02-07-2002, 10:10 PM	#3
Nerull Lord Ao Join Date: May 17, 2001 Location: San Antonio, Texas, USA Age: 53 Posts: 2,069	quote: Originally posted by khazadman: why do they still have this silly humans only limitation on paladins?and lawfull good at that.i understand that tdd has the anti-paladin class but why not a dwarven paladin?someone needs to talk to the people who create these things.i mean,who can be more self righteous that an elf? Unfortunately, the game is based on the AD&D 2nd edition (where humans only can be paladins). In the third edition pnp game, any race can be any class, and can advance to any level (humans get extra abilities to make them on par with their non-human counterparts, evening out everything). Pool of Radiance II is based off of the third edition rules. __________________ [img]\"ubb/noncgi/smiles/new/ghoul.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br /><br />\"The middle class pays all of the taxes, does all of the work.<br />The lower class exists just to scare the middle class.\"<br />-George Carlin

02-07-2002, 10:14 PM	#4
Harry The Magister Join Date: January 27, 2002 Location: The Land of naked fraulicing nymphs where your every desire comes true Posts: 118	quote: Originally posted by khazadman: why do they still have this silly humans only limitation on paladins?and lawfull good at that.i understand that tdd has the anti-paladin class but why not a dwarven paladin?someone needs to talk to the people who create these things.i mean,who can be more self righteous that an elf? you sound like nalia saying that __________________ Careful, now...there\'s some mighty queer people roamin\' the Docks, there is. You must always be on yer guard.-Commoner from BGII

02-08-2002, 11:50 AM	#6
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02-08-2002, 03:25 PM	#7
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02-07-2002, 07:46 PM	#1
khazadman User suspended until [Feb13] Join Date: December 6, 2001 Location: the south side of ol virginny Age: 62 Posts: 1,172	why do they still have this silly humans only limitation on paladins?and lawfull good at that.i understand that tdd has the anti-paladin class but why not a dwarven paladin?someone needs to talk to the people who create these things.i mean,who can be more self righteous that an elf?

02-08-2002, 11:40 AM	#5
khazadman User suspended until [Feb13] Join Date: December 6, 2001 Location: the south side of ol virginny Age: 62 Posts: 1,172	hey,no need to insult me.i just prefer dwarven characters and would love to run a dwarven paladin.

02-08-2002, 03:43 PM	#8
Morgeruat Jack Burton Join Date: October 16, 2001 Location: PA Age: 43 Posts: 5,421	well, first of all dwarves can't get the required charisma to be a paladin, they have a max of 17 BEFORE racial adjustment, they can get a 16 Chr. max, elves are a bit more problematic, for one they're normally chaotic manner makes them ill suited to devote themselves to the fight against chaos and evil, plus the idea of paladinhood is one unique to humans, while other races have differing views of what an archetypical hero would be, for elves this comes in the form of a bladesinger normally. while a dwarven hero would be much more of a fighter type rather than the strict focus on spirituality that a human paladin would have, in fact of all the demihuman races (elf dwarf, gnome etc.) only halflings approach this with anywhere near the kind of mindset a human would have, and theirs is much more laid-back(Mazzy is an example). In Dragonlance however elves, and half-elves are the only non-human races that can be Paladins, why this is allowed is up to the designers of that world, much like allowing elven druids in forgotten realms, a practice normally restricted to humans and 1/2 elves, and the occasional green-bearded dwarf (see the Cleric Quintet by R.A. Salvatore) __________________ "Any attempt to cheat, especially with my wife, who is a dirty, dirty, tramp, and I am just gonna snap." Knibb High Principal - Billy Madison

02-09-2002, 05:20 PM	#9
jabidas Silver Dragon Join Date: March 14, 2001 Location: Agharti. Mountains of Madness Posts: 1,673	Yeah those sick puritanical scum. They discriminate against the undead as well, how twisted is that. I demand we make a petition for equal rights for the undead and an immediate ban on those vicous racists the ''undead hunters'', bloddy monsters. __________________ <br /><br />Non Serviam.

02-09-2002, 05:33 PM	#10
Antagonist Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 3, 2002 Location: Faerûn Posts: 15	If you have a PS2, in dark alliance you don't have to be human to be a paladin. Archers Nest __________________ [IMG]ubb/noncgi/smiles/knightmov.gif[/IMG]<br />Bhaal. The Antagonist. Ruler of Darkness, and the God of Murder.

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