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Old 10-17-2001, 03:20 AM   #11
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I love to play wizards as well in D&D, but although they have alot of multiple uses and are quite fun, warriors are truely the ubber class. Sure, in a one shot fight, I'd give the advantage to a wizard who can shoot off his highpowered spells to good effect, but a warrior can just keep on chopping and slaying and slaughtering. There is no need to rest when you've got a talented warrior in the group. From a power standpoint, the D&D classes are not balanced one bit. Let's face it, it's a roleplaying game meant for the characters to act out different personalities, and enjoy an adventure of dialogue and thought. For Baldur's, we're talking about mainly a hack and slash scenario.. so why bother with a thief or cleric type?

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Old 10-17-2001, 03:37 AM   #12
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For Baldur's, we're talking about mainly a hack and slash scenario.. so why bother with a thief or cleric type?
i dont mind you taking it out on clerics but thieves thats goin a bit far!! how can a warrior hack and slash when the thief he couldnt see or hear snuck up and stuck a dagger in his spine??

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Old 10-17-2001, 07:24 AM   #13
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Considering that a warrior would probably survive such a cowardly blow with more HP left than the Cutpurse had to begin with... I imagine, that he would calmly turn around, blocking the assassin's next blow with his handy shield, and proceed to carve the little fool into tiny little pieces of meat. Just a guess.


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Old 10-17-2001, 07:35 AM   #14
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I suppose your warriors like being petrified or disintergrated by traps; or maybe being swarmed by Wraiths and a dozen STR-sucking Shadows. Hey is that a Mind Flayer? No problem! I love being psionic-stunned and having my brains sucked out! Oooo! A locked door! I think I will just bash it down instead of lockpicking it and sacrifice some Xp. I have buttloads of Hp, but that Dragon just hit me with a Critical Hit, too bad I do not have a Cleric to instant heal me with a Heal spell, guess it is time to run around for a while drinking health potions. Etc... ...

While it is possible to play the game without a Cleric and/or a Thief, they make the game much much easier and can aid you in many encounters.

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Old 10-17-2001, 10:27 AM   #15
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No kidding. I like to keep as few warriors in my group as possible. In a group of six, I usually have at least 4 spellcasters, actually 5 if you count Jah. And technically, Minsc can cast spells, so actually, I have all spellcasters. But seriously, mages can have a much easier time of the game than a warrior. You don't believe me? Make your own party of 5 warriors (and a thief because they are kind of necessary), and another party of 5 mages (and a thief), and see who has an easier time.

If I ever MP'd, I'd love to duel my wild mage against your fighter...but I don't so that's that.
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Old 10-17-2001, 10:30 AM   #16
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The most powerful spellcasting class is the Sorcerer, he can cast more spells than any of the others and you don't really need all the variety that the other classes have, I completed SoA using no more than 10-13 different spells, also, he does not need to memorize spells and therefore you don't have to remember to memorize flame arrows or acid arrows against trolls or identify if you suspect that you will find magical items.
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Old 10-17-2001, 11:17 AM   #17
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Avengers, Wild Mages and Sorcerers are my favorites.


Cleric/Mages are great, too, but Aerie is there if you want to try one out.


It's really too bad that there isn't an option for a Druid/Mage or Druid/Thief.


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Old 10-17-2001, 11:35 AM   #18
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Dundee, I wish I could have responded to your note a bit sooner, but Im currently at work. My comment pertained to the character class of your main (personal) character. Im sorry if that wasn't obvious. Certainly rogues and clerics serve important functions in any group. My point was simply that warriors were more powerful than either of those classes in a classic D&D setting, and was a logical choice as a main char in Baldur's gate. My other note was a response to someone who apparently thinks that rogues can whoop up on warriors in single combat *cough*. No matter, I suppose the moral of the story is that a balanced group of classes is certainly best, but we were talking about the power level of the main. That's all.
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Dundee, I wish I could have responded to your note a bit sooner, but Im currently at work. My comment pertained to the character class of your main (personal) character. Im sorry if that wasn't obvious. Certainly rogues and clerics serve important functions in any group. My point was simply that warriors were more powerful than either of those classes in a classic D&D setting, and was a logical choice as a main char in Baldur's gate. My other note was a response to someone who apparently thinks that rogues can whoop up on warriors in single combat *cough*. No matter, I suppose the moral of the story is that a balanced group of classes is certainly best, but we were talking about the power level of the main. That's all.
Ah I see, hmmmm... although it is the general opinion( at least over at the Black Isle Forums) that the main char is meant to be a Mage/Sorcerer, with Fighter second.

As for Thief vs Fighter... eh... depends on the situation. In a man to man fight, the fighter will most certainly cream the thief, but if the thief uses sneaky tactics such taunting and luring you to a area filled with traps... well you get my point.

Cleric vs Fighter... eh... I guess the Fighter will win. A Mage/Cleric or a Ranger/Cleric will be a different matter though.

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