The Gladiator

[Megabot]

Hi after seeing the movie The Gladiator i wonder how did the Rome fall they had conquered the most of the world how did they fall?
I think i learned something about it in the school but dont remember how the imperie get crushed [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Jorath Calar]

If I remember correctly, after several incompetent leaders they simply lost interest in keeping an empire and it disolved on its own...

[dplax]

It was all because of the nomad tribes coming from the east and the decadence into which the Roman Empire had fallen. The Empire was split into two parts and waves of nomad tribes attacked both. Western Rome fell in 476 AD, while the Eastern Empire with Constantinople as its capital survived until later. Constantinople was taken in 1453 by the turks although it had been surrounded for a long time before that.

[Link]

It's a bit more than just "the nomad tribes did it". It also involves Roman citizenship, the financial situation (in combination with the military) and the political structure of a citystate used on an empire.

[dplax]

Originally posted by Link: It's a bit more than just "the nomad tribes did it". It also involves Roman citizenship, the financial situation (in combination with the military) and the political structure of a citystate used on an empire.

I could have written three pages about it also... [img]smile.gif[/img]
And in the previous post I did also mention the decadence of the Empire.

[Lucern]

It's a complex topic, as I think the previous posters appreciate. Another common theme I've heard is that the empire overexpanded - too many imperial fingers in too many pies - pies that burned sometimes

It's worth reading about to realize all the ways power can shift between groups of people.

[The Hierophant]

Rome did not fall. Rome dispersed.

Every facet of your life, from the food you eat, to the governments you elect, to the language you speak derives from the legacy of Rome.

Remove the concept of epoches and ages from your mind. There are no set epoches, only the perpetual flow and adaptation of culture. And what a volatile phenomena this flow and adaptation is.

Rome did not conquer the known world, people did, using the word 'Rome' as a device of collective identity. People still live, people still conquer. Everything has adapted, but nothing has changed.

[ 11-26-2004, 04:28 AM: Message edited by: The Hierophant ]

[Megabot]

Thanks for the replyes folks it is wery interesting how a big "nation" like that colapsed have not read so much about it but will do soon. [img]smile.gif[/img]
Anyway what about other "big" nations like Russia, Kina and USA can they fall for the same reson you think?

[Attalus]

I think that the USSR already did.

[johnny]

Rome destroyed itself, internal rivalries brought it down. Empires that bring forth leaders such as Nero and Galigula, and dispose of leaders such as Gaius Julius, are bound to crumble sooner or later. Incest played a big part in their downfall as well, but i don't think many historybooks will ever mention that.