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Old 06-11-2004, 02:34 PM   #1
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I want to show something to all the chess lovers here, how an excessive pawn eating while leaving the pieces undeveloped, may lead to trouble.
Saw that on Yahoo, so decided to publish it. The original chess topic is too old, and its revival will be considered "chess necromancy".

The opening was done poorly by the black. White won due to time (2 mins to each player). Notice the undeveloped queens flang of the white, and the white's queen that ate too many pawns and got herself into trouble.


;White: relstenim
;Black: mannysingu
;Date: Fri Jun 11 18:16:01 GMT 2004

1. e2-e4 e7-e6
2. d2-d3 d7-d5
3. b1-d2 d5xe4
4. d3xe4 c8-d7
5. g1-f3 d7-c6
6. f1-d3 b8-d7
7. o-o g8-f6
8. d1-e2 e6-e5
9. d3-b5 c6xb5
10. e2xb5 c7-c6
11. b5xb7 f8-e7
12. f1-e1 o-o
13. c2-c3 d7-c5
14. b7xc6 c5-d3
15. e1-f1 a8-c8
16. c6-b5 c8-b8
17. b5-a6 b8-b6
18. a6xa7 e7-c5
19. d2-b3 b6xb3
20. a7-a4 b3-b7
21. c1-e3 c5xe3
22. f2xe3 d3xb2
23. a4-a6 d8-c7
24. a1-b1 b7-b6
25. a6-a5 b2-c4
26. a5-a4 b6xb1
27. f1xb1 c4xe3
28. h2-h3 c7xc3
29. g1-h2 f8-d8
30. a4-b5 f6-g4+
31. h3xg4 e3xg4+
32. h2-g3 g4-f6
33. b5-b6 f6xe4+
34. g3-g4 c3-d3


The game was played badly (due to lack of time, these2 players play much better usually) but the overall lesson is important-sometimes the loss of material is not so tragic as the loss of the king.
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Old 06-12-2004, 10:39 PM   #2
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Do you know these two people?

ADD] Oh, and usual move after e2-e4 is d2-d4, right? Why push it to only d3?

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Old 06-13-2004, 03:46 AM   #3
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the 19 move of the black should be written with "!!". There is no acceptable move for the white. Moving the queen f.e will cause exchange at f2 with pawn e4 being captured afterwards.
for example:
qa5 -qb8
h3 -(in order too prevent ng4) rb5.
white is in troubles. ra8 is too omnious so he has to retreat with the queen.
qa4 -qb7 or qb6.
the result in the end will be that the white will loose all his previously gained pawns and probably his king too. f2 pawn is defenseless as is e4. pawn b2 is defensless too, and actually it demands attention of the bishop thus paralyzing the entire queens side. playing b3 and bb2 is too much time. since that the black will already eat the f2 and e4 pawns.


To the question of d2-d3, i think that the white wanted to throw the opponent of balance by playing not acording to the theory. 2 mins per player is a small time. Black did not manage to play well in this new situation.
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Old 06-13-2004, 09:45 AM   #4
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Do you have any more good chess games that illustrates a specific strategy? I wouldn't mind getting my paws on a few of them.

Yes, 2 mins per person is a small time indeed. At 37 moves, it translates to 3 seconds per move. Not much time to think about what you're doing.

Okay, here's another question for you. Say the Queens are facing each other without any pieces in front of them. Should I take the other Queen and force the King to eat it, making him unable to castle, or simply let sleeping dogs lie?
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Old 06-13-2004, 10:26 AM   #5
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making the opponent's king unable to castle is always a good idea, provided that tactically it is correct. In strategy terms it is a very good move indeed. f.e. if we will take the starting position but without the d pawns taking the black's queen will be a very good move.
an example:

e4-e5
nf3-nc6
d4-d6?
d4*e5 -n*e5
n*e5-d6*e5
q*d8 -k*d8. white stands MUCH better.
bc4-ke8, or any other move equivalent to that one.
White plan: be3 or g5 (if nf6 was played), than nd2 and 0-0-0. taking over the d line, doubling rooks and starting to press the black. The black has no acceptable play in the long run. the black black bishop is useless and if he will stand on d6 square, the time will come and white will eat him with nd2-c4, craeting a permament weakness-pawn d6 (previous c7).

I have dozens of good plays recorded, unfortunately they are recorded in my books, and typing them is a tiresome buisness. If i will find a good play in yahoo than i will publish it here.
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Old 06-13-2004, 09:52 PM   #6
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That's almost exactly what I was talking about. [img]smile.gif[/img] Thanks.

Another question: In a closed game, where pawns are really, really jamming up the center so that there are no good pieces to attack. What should I do?
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Old 06-14-2004, 02:37 AM   #7
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Break the center with side pawns (c, f, b, g) after careful planning (doubling the rooks in the future opened line for instance), or start to play on some flang instead (queens or kings).
A very good example:

A.usupov-H.rubinetti. Indian defence. found a short example from my book "talking about chess".
1)d4-nf6
2)c4-d6
3)nc3-nbd7
4)nf3-c6
5)e4-e5
6)be2-be7
7)0-0 - 0-0
8)h3-a6
9)a4-a5
10)be3-re8
11)d5-qc7
12)nd2-nc5
Position as you see is sufficiently jammed. Normally b3,a3 and b4 is played kicking the c5 black N somewhere else. Here is a plan of alternative flang play (without breaking the center).
13)kh2!-bd8
14)rg1!-qb6
15)rb1-qa7
16)g4-rf8
17)nf1!-ne8
18)ng3-f6
19)nf5-bf5
20)gf-bb6
21)bh5-rd8
22)bh6-rd7
23)b*e8-r*e8
24)qh5-qb8
25)b*g7!
black resigned. After rook exchange the second rook wil catch the line and qf7 will be played with checkmate in a few moves.
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Old 06-15-2004, 08:45 AM   #8
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An example of the value of knight over bishop in closed positions, as well as creating weakness of the enemy squares.

;White: knatanl2000 (me)
;Black: puyanpourfarid

8 mins per player.

e2-e4 c7-c5
2. g1-f3 b8-c6
3. d2-d4 c5xd4
4. f3xd4 d7-d6
5. d4xc6 b7xc6
6. f1-d3 g8-f6
7. o-o c8-g4
8. f2-f3 g4-c8
9. c1-e3 e7-e6
10. f3-f4 f8-e7
11. e4-e5 f6-d5
12. d1-e2 o-o
13. c2-c4 d5-b4
14. d3-e4 d6-d5
15. e4-f3 d5-d4
16. e3-d2 c8-b7
17. d2xb4 e7xb4
18. a2-a3 b4-a5
19. b2-b4 a5-c7
20. f3-e4 a7-a5
21. b4-b5 f7-f5
22. e4-f3 c7-b6
23. e2-d3 d8-e8
24. a3-a4 a8-b8
25. b1-d2 c6-c5
26. f3xb7 b8xb7
27. d2-b3 e8-h5
28. f1-f3 f8-d8
29. a1-f1 h5-f7
30. f3-h3 h7-h6
31. f1-f3 g8-f8
32. f3-g3 f7-e7
33. b3-d2 f8-e8
34. d2-f3 e8-d7
35. f3-h4 g7-g5
36. f4xg5 h6xg5
37. h4xf5 e6xf5
38. d3xf5+ d7-e8
39. h3-h8+ e7-f8
40. h8xf8+

Black resigned.
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Old 06-15-2004, 09:10 AM   #9
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my 16 move was after detailed analysis a rather dumb one. I hoped to get for my a1 rook his knight and one pawn (c6) with another (d3) in the near future, as well as attack on his king with my pieces using the fact that his queens rook bishop and his queen could not reach his king in time. In reality i simply ended with a bad position and not enough compensation for my lost rook. silly me. Lukily he did not notice.

When i started to attack at his king's side and he run away with his king, my plan was to put the knight on g6, and sacrifice the rook h3 for 2 pawns-h6 and g7. as strange as it sounds, the plan should have worked. The king of my opponent was stuck because of the pawns b5 and e5, and i could have given him the check mate wit hmy 3 left pieces. Notice his useless pieces due to the closed position.
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wow u guys r good i can never follow those numbers like that
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