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Of course if he were allowed to stay and actually did something bad, people would clamor about the failure of security to recogize even the most obvious and well known threats. [ 09-22-2004, 08:17 AM: Message edited by: Ronn_Bman ]
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09-22-2004, 12:00 PM | #2 |
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Perhaps DHS was worried about his past political stances;
• He publicly supported the Ayatollah Khomeini's death sentence for blasphemy against Salman Rushdie in 1989 , although he has backtracked since then. • He was denied entry into Israel for donating thousands to the civilian-murdering terrorists of Hamas -- although now he denies this too.
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09-22-2004, 12:27 PM | #3 |
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Hey, he may have made good music, but if he funded groups like Hammas and PFLP and all the other jihad-linked charities, I don't want him coming around here. Of course, maybe if they had released all the info about him to the general public and allowed him to go ahead and visit, he may have thought twice about it.
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Wait... A flight was diverted 600 miles because of "CONCERNS" that this guy may have given to charities that may be linked to Hammas. No proof, no trial, no charges; just "Concerns". The shame.
It should also be noted that Mr. Islam has openly and publicly denounced terrorism countless times, and has never been convicted of a crime related to terrorism. The real "crime" here has not been committed by Mr. Islam and it disturbs me that Americans actually support this kind of wasteful activity being taken on such flimsy grounds. It seems to me that "Islamaphobia" once again has reared its ugly head. Quote:
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09-23-2004, 04:40 AM | #5 |
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Can someone please tell me why "Paranoia Flight 141" was diverted rather than just turning him back at immigration?
Was it because an American Immigration officer had recently heard the 60's hit "I'm gonna get me a gun" and saw it as a threat? He has donated money to the families of those that died in the 9/11 attacks and was allowed into the US earlier this year. The Foreign Minister, Jack Straw, has protested to Colin Powell about the expulsion.
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[/QUOTE]Lame argument, Nice ad hominem/strawman. As a matter of fact this post is so insulting that I have lost any and all respect for you, what little I had left after the "supporting terrorists" accusations a while back. So come back when you actually want to discuss the issue and have some sort of proof to back up the claims of terror support.
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09-23-2004, 05:17 PM | #8 |
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Ooooh, big latin words. Listen, there's a point to what I just said and you know it. There really is truth to the saying that you can't please everybody. Had they done nothing, you know there really would be a news story on how another threat slipped through. It would at least get a mention in a stump speech. Tell me it wouldn't.
And, I think our long discussion before was about terrorist supporters, and I think if finally gave up and dropped it as well. It's not like I accused anyone here of having the courage, audacity, conviction, or stupidity to strap on a bomb and actually be a terrorist. It was about supporting a side -- and I really don't want to get into it again, cause we beat it to death. I think you just got so incensed I called you a hippie. [img]graemlins/biglaugh.gif[/img] It was just a rant, man. I once had Jerry Bears on my bumper sticker, too. I'm just words you read online, you shouldn't get so offended. And, I'm really sad if I lost your respect. No... really. Damn, where's that sincerity smiley? I know it's in here somewhere... |
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"hippies"?? - you been drinking again TL, or are you still in that 60's time warp! [ 09-23-2004, 08:40 PM: Message edited by: Donut ]
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09-24-2004, 09:38 AM | #10 |
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It was 4:17 pm here Donut. Only blue collar folks drink at that hour!
Apparently, I'm being unclear again. Look Here. [edit]Since I didn't know the facts, my opinion expressed above was premised on an "IF." But now I've looked at a few facts about this yet another fanciful story in our wild world. http://catstevens.com/ [ 09-24-2004, 09:44 AM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ] |
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