Bush shows contempt for elderly

[John D Harris]

The thread is about a spending progam, for low income, heating assistance, part of the federal budget that has passed the Hose of Reps but not the U.S. Senate.

I would agree that pension plans that don't keep up with inflation are losing ground, can anyone say Social Security? But I believe if you are willing to let the politcians give you your pension, and look after you in your old age, well you'll get what you wanted.

[Barry the Sprout]

Originally posted by John D Harris: The thread is about a spending progam, for low income, heating assistance, part of the federal budget that has passed the Hose of Reps but not the U.S. Senate. I would agree that pension plans that don't keep up with inflation are losing ground, can anyone say Social Security? But I believe if you are willing to let the politcians give you your pension, and look after you in your old age, well you'll get what you wanted.

I think my point still stands - even if more is being spent above inflation for the whole group then each person may receive less than an inflation rise as there are more people each year to cater for.

And as for the pensions, just because you let the government have it does not mean you "want" it to be run badly and for you to have less money. Politicians should be servants of the people, I personally thought that wa the foundation of democracy. Just because the system doesn't work that way now does not mean it could not work that way if we tried to change it instead of accepting it as the way things are for evermore. So I think state pensions are a very good idea personally.

Originally posted by Barry the Sprout: quote: Originally posted by MagiK: Nothing like putting the blame where it belongs...oh and not to mention the so called cuts were actually still increases, the "cuts" being cuts in growth not in actual dollars. EDIT: Hope this reply is in an appropriately pleasing format

Well, I don;t know the specifics but if the fall in growth rate is less than the rate of inflation in the economy then this is in fact a cut in real terms. How you phrase it is up to you, but even if they are getting more actual money to spend than last year the pensioners could still have less wealth in real terms. Money is not a good rating of wealth over time unless it takes inflation into account. A simple point, but you'd be surprised how often it gets overlooked for that very reason.

And the font is fine by me. [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] [/QUOTE]Good point about inflation but I believe that inflation here is pretty low for the last year, SO I guess I really do need to look to see if the total dollars allocated this year is actually at least the inflation rate higher than last year. I think it is, but didn't really check. You are right, it is easy to forget that little detail.

[True_Moose]

Inflation for last year in the US was 2.8%.

[Davros]

Originally posted by MagiK: Thought that would be apparent to all Davros, gee and here you are usually so observant . Just goes to show ole pal, that you should ever assume these things - keep an open mind please EDIT: Hope this reply is in an appropriately pleasing format Yes, the format was much better in that you didn't cut up my post guvna, and make alternating posts in different colours - like what I have done

[Cloudbringer]

sigh...Eisendram, you're a scrooge this time of year, aren't you?

BTW, how old are you? I just wondered after this post!

[Lanesra]

Originally posted by Davros: quote: Originally posted by MagiK: Thought that would be apparent to all Davros, gee and here you are usually so observant . Just goes to show ole pal, that you should ever assume these things - keep an open mind please EDIT: Hope this reply is in an appropriately pleasing format Yes, the format was much better in that you didn't cut up my post guvna, and make alternating posts in different colours - like what I have done

[/QUOTE]Davros, you're messing wiv me minces again. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Leonis]

Originally posted by Davros: quote: Originally posted by MagiK: Thought that would be apparent to all Davros, gee and here you are usually so observant . Just goes to show ole pal, that you should ever assume these things - keep an open mind please EDIT: Hope this reply is in an appropriately pleasing format Yes, the format was much better in that you didn't cut up my post guvna, and make alternating posts in different colours - like what I have done

[/QUOTE]I think he thought it would be apparent because Eisenschwarz himself said something like that he forgot the pw to Dramnek Ulk, couldn't be bothered waiting for it to be sent again and asked Z to delete it now that he was using Eisenschwarz. No attempt at guile I believe...

EDIT** Particularly as Dramnek's 'How much do you know about me?' (title?) thread linked to a 'how much do you know about Eisenschwarz' page.

[ 12-01-2002, 06:21 PM: Message edited by: Leonis ]

[john]

Hmmm people freezing,people starving,people having no place to live.But theres' plenty of money for a few more bombs!!

[Wurm]

Originally posted by john: Hmmm people freezing,people starving,people having no place to live.But theres' plenty of money for a few more bombs!!

But of Course! And thats the way it has always been [img]smile.gif[/img]