How to kill big red dragon ?

Nope

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[el_kalkylus]

Using wand of frost should do a lot of damage to him, since he is a fire-dragon. Haven't done it myself, but it makes sense.

[MILAMBER]

I don't see how you could even make it to Firkraag at level 9. As soon as you left Irenicus' dungeon you didn't do anything in Waukeen's Promanade, and went straight to Firkraags dungeon, and fought to get to Firkraag, I figure you would be at least level 11 or 12. To still be at level 9 you would have to avoid every fight you saw.

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[250]

Originally posted by el_kalkylus: Using wand of frost should do a lot of damage to him, since he is a fire-dragon. Haven't done it myself, but it makes sense.

no it does not

wand of frost does 8d6 dmg, which the dragon would save against, he will only do aorund 12 dmg each round

he had a lvl 9 party, his mage would certainly be lvl 9 or lower, that means he has only 2 (specialist mage) lower resistence, or 1 lower resis and 1 breach, or 2 breaches.

since his fighters cannot/should not hit the dragon with a thac0 above 8 (lvl 9 fighter cannot have a better thac0 than 8, unless he cheated or load in items) so that means, he will not be relying on melee a lot. but he does have an archer, an archer can perfectly have a 1 thac0 at lvl 10.

I suppose he had 1 breach and 1 lower resistence

lvl 9 mage's lower resistence lasts 9 rounds, and a wand of frost does around 12 dmg each hit. also, if he has no front line, he cannot possibly move in his mage to use wand, because the dragon will dispel/wing/melee the mage. he will have mostly about 5 rounds to use wand. 5 times 12 = 60 dmg

archer will do a lot dmg to the dragon, (1d6 +1d2) X 4 in 9 rounds 162 dmg (the luckest condition, average dmg) 162 + 60 = 212 dmg, it only BARELY beats Firakaag. but if you count in that Firakaag can FULLY heal himself, you come to conclusion that he is lying.

so I want his detailed strategy, equipment, and characters

[250]

about his archer, that is I SUPPOSED all his frost arrows hit. (which is definately impossible with -12AC of Firakaag)

[This message has been edited by 250 (edited 03-20-2001).]

[el_kalkylus]

Maybe his main character was at level 9 (multiclassed fighter/mage or something).

250, about the frost wand, you are right, but from roleplaying aspect it would make sense.

[This message has been edited by el_kalkylus (edited 03-20-2001).]

[250]

Originally posted by el_kalkylus: Maybe his main character was at level 9 (multiclassed fighter/mage or something).

that makes things worse, because he will have only one lower resistence spell, and no breach or breach with no lower resistence

and he will not have any archer (archer kit, unless he used a party of his own)

also, that isnt really a lvl 9 party.

after all, give me the detailed strategy, equipment, characters

[250]

i dont care if he brags or boasts, but if he lies, I will catch him faster than he can say "oh shiiii..."

[el_kalkylus]

Yeah, you are probably right. That lying bastard!

[250]

you are right, wand of frost should do more dmg from RP aspect, but very very sadly...