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Old 07-16-2003, 12:17 PM   #1
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Here is an article by a guy who has watched "South Park: The movie" one too many times.


Danger on our Northern Border

July 14, 2003

by Tom Barrett

Since the NAFTA Treaty opened our borders with our neighbors to the North and the South even more than they had already been, much has been made of the dangers of illicit "imports" that cross our border with Mexico. But our liberal news media ignores the dangers America faces from our northern neighbor.

No one welcomes the constant flow of illegal immigrants and drugs that flood into our nation on a daily basis from Mexico. And we are all too aware that our unprotected borders with both Mexico and Canada are an open invitation to terrorists to enter the United States from those countries. In fact, it has been documented that many of the 9-11 terrorists entered the US from Canada. But these are all dangers that all intelligent people recognize as harmful to our country and our way of life.

Today I would like to discuss some of the invisible dangers that emanate from Canada to the United States. These dangers are in the forms of ideas and attitudes that have harmed Canada and will harm the United States unless we learn from Canada’s example.

Before all our Canadian readers get upset, let me hasten to clarify that I recognize Canada as a friend and ally of the United States, and that most Canadians are far more conservative than their politicians and jurists. But most of our Canadian readers will agree that Canada, once a democracy, has effectively become a liberal Socialist nation. Canadian conservatives are not happy with that development. And the United States should be alarmed by that development.

Among the states in our union, California has taken the lead in liberalism. They have over-taxed and over-regulated their citizens to the point where a revolution is brewing. Not the kind of revolution where an armed militia marches on the state capitol. But we may well see their extremely liberal governor, Gray Davis, removed from office soon. Even though some Californians are finally taking action to rescue their state from the Socialists, California has for many years been the harbinger of liberal ideas and policies that have spread to other states.

Just as California has become an early-warning system of things to come for other states, Canada seems to have taken on that role in a national capacity. Over the years many of our sister nation’s liberal attitudes and ideas have invaded our nation. Here are a few that I fear may take hold in the United States if we are not vigilant.

LEGALIZED DRUGS.

Canada is well on its way to legalizing all drugs. When their Senate’s Special Committee on Illegal Drugs first met, their very first witness was a Dutch doctor, Peter Cohen, who extolled the virtues of drug use in Holland. He conveniently neglected to mention the 30% increase in crime that followed Holland’s decision to legalize drugs. A prominent Canadian Senator, Pierre Claude Nolin, has taken the lead in pushing for legalization. He often speaks on college campuses, where his liberal views are warmly received. Claiming that 25% of Canadians have used illegal drugs, Nolin says he believes "the act of criminally prosecuting drug users may be more socially detrimental than the effects of the drugs themselves."

Here are some Canadian drug facts. The New York Times has described Canada as "one of the world's leading havens for concealing illegal narcotics profits." According to David Kilgour, a Canadian Member of Parliament, "In 1992, six days after the Chinese police arrested dozens of her accomplices, Ms. Lee Chau-ping, the most infamous female drug trafficker in the world, moved to Canada. She had promised Immigration Canada officials that she was going to open a new fast-food franchise." The Chinese asked Canada to arrest her. Instead, the RCMP (Royal Canadian Mounted Police) dragged their feet investigating her, allowing her to escape again. And the United Nations Human Development Report named Canada as the industrialized country with the highest number of illegal drug crimes per capita.

It is only a matter of time before Canada follows Holland’s example. Let’s pray that the United States does not follow Canada.

HOMOSEXUAL MARRIAGE.

In the 1990’s and early 2000’s, the provincial governments of British Columbia, Nova Scotia, Ontario and Quebec granted restricted rights to homosexuals, equivalent to heterosexual common-law couples. On June 10, 2003, the definition of marriage in Ontario was widened by the courts so that homosexual couples were allowed to marry for the first time. On July 8, 2003, the province of British Columbia followed suit. The Canadian federal government is expected to submit draft legislation to the Canadian Supreme Court by the end of July, 2003, which would redefine marriage to include homosexual couples. The Court would then rule on the constitutionality of the proposed laws. Homosexual couples will probably be able to marry anywhere in Canada by July, 2004. This will make Canada only the third country in the world to allow these perverted unions.

According to many polls, Canadian adults support homosexual marriage in much larger numbers than adults in the United States. If proponents of this perversion of marriage are successful in Canada, we can expect a spillover effect in which more and more Americans will change their views to mirror those of Canadians. As in Canada, most Americans have little training or grounding in Biblical or moral principles. Thus, they have no idea how sinful and sick the concept of homosexual marriage is, or of how such "marriages" will tear away at the foundations of our society.

UNLIMITED IMMIGRATION.

"Who is responsible for Canada being considered as the Club Med for international criminals, as an immigration sieve?" asks Canadian legislator Michel Gauthier. Lots of people would like to know the answer to that question. In the article, "Canada Under Fire as Haven for Terrorists," Ottawa Dispatch author Anne McIlroy describes how terrorist Ahmed Ressam, an Algerian caught in The United States with a trunk load of explosives, got his Canadian ID. "All it took to give Mr. Ressam a squeaky clean new Canadian identity was a fake student card and a forged baptismal certificate. It appears that passport officials did not even do basic checks that would have verified whether his documents were indeed legitimate."

Canada has a similar problem to the US when it comes to immigration. Here the Democrat Party undermines any attempt to stop illegal immigration, because most immigrants vote Democrat. In Canada, the Liberal Party must keep the immigrants (legal or illegal) flowing in to maintain its position. The result is that 17% of the Canadian population is made up of immigrants, and that percentage is growing. Unfortunately for the US, Canada is a favorite entry point for the thousands of terrorists operating in cells in our country. Also unfortunate for us is that our legislators are following Canada’s example, even in the wake of 9-11. Before long Osama will be able to come to Los Angeles, get a library card, and use that to get a US passport.

There are hundreds of websites is dozens of languages advertising for immigrants to come to Canada. One of them has lots of information about the beauty of Canada and the opportunities there. Then they ruin it all with endorsements from two people that would make sensible people run the other way: Bill Clinton and Jane Fonda.

GALLOPING SOCIALISM.

In the article "Socialism is Crippling Canada" (first link below), Eric Margolis reveals that under the Liberal Party "the federal government went from consuming 30% of national income to 53%." People used to talk about the "Creeping Socialism" in Canada. Today I think my phrase is far more accurate. Socialism has affected all areas of Canadian life. For purposes of brevity, I will focus on the worst of these: Socialized medicine.

Hillary gushes when she talks about Canada’s health care system. So do many Canadians (after all, the government pays for it – what’s not to like?). But many Canadians have nothing good to say about socialized medicine. These are the people who are so ill that they can’t afford the months of waiting to receive medical procedures essential to their health, and sometimes to life itself. These Canadians often come to the US to receive prompt quality medical care.

There are two basic problems with socialized medicine. First, by its nature it must be rationed. There are a limited numbers of dollars (limited by how much the government can squeeze out of taxpayers without destroying them financially). Those dollars must be distributed among a certain number of people. The inevitable result is rationing and months-long waiting lists.

The other problem is a lack of motivation. In America, doctors have historically had a profit motive to encourage them to give quality care, and to keep costs reasonable so that patients don’t go to the doc down the street. As America creeps toward socialized medicine, we see that motivation decreasing. If you want to see what medicine in America will look like in ten years if the liberals have their way, look at Canada. There doctors get paid the same whether they give great care or terrible care. There they get paid the same whether they see twenty patients a day or two. Start looking for a country where you can fly for medical care if America adopts the Canadian plan.

Here are two quotes from the first article link below: "Waiting lists for surgery in some Canadian hospitals can stretch from months to as long as five years." (National Center for Policy Analysis.) "I Ontario, cancer patients may be asked by their hospital to sign a waiver acknowledging the danger of being forced to wait for treatment." (National Post of Canada.) No thanks, Hillary.

Canada has other liberal ideas that we would do well to shun. They provide pornography to prison inmates. Excuse me; isn’t that what got many of them into trouble in the first place? And their obsession with having two national languages has produced two cultures and the very real possibility that Quebec may declare itself a separate nation. All American social engineers, please take note.

As you read this list, you surely recognized that we already have strong liberal voices in this nation espousing all these disastrous policies. The point is not that because Canada has these problems, it is inevitable that we will adopt the same wrong-headed laws and policies. Rather, it is that liberals are using the fact that our friend and neighbor to the North, so much like our nation in so many ways, has adopted them, and has apparently survived. Their argument is that therefore the United States can adopt them without harm. Absent from their arguments is the fact that Canada has been seriously, perhaps fatally, damaged by the liberal rot that is eating away at the very soul of that nation.

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The article is full of lies and BS.

Re: In fact, it has been documented that many of the 9-11 terrorists entered the US from Canada

This is a well known lie, spread around by Congressmen from the United States. Many members of Congress wanted to believe it, until they were horrified to find out that the 9-11 all possesed legal US Visas, and had not come in through Canada. This was again proven when 5 fake men supposedly entered the US via Canada. Again a lie.

Re: Canada is well on its way to legalizing all drugs.

All drugs being Marijuana. Canada has no intention of legalizing Coccaine, Heroin, PCP, LCD, Liquid G a.ka. Ecstacy.

Re: In the 1990’s and early 2000’s, the provincial governments of British Columbia, Nova Scotia, Ontario and Quebec granted restricted rights to homosexuals, equivalent to heterosexual common-law couples.

Yeah, and the many many gay people in the US are so happy about this legislation.. They just won the right to have sex.. *yeay* How many homosexual americans are there? How many are prominent and yield alot of Money? Laws won't stay the same forever. We must wake up to the fact that the world is changing.

Re: Who is responsible for Canada being considered as the Club Med for international criminals, as an immigration sieve?"

This is his only vaild point. But, yet, He basically Calls Canada the international terrorism hot spot. Whereas, there are many immigrants to Canada that are no threat. He fails to include them. He also fails to include Canada has far fewer flights originating in the Middle east than the USA, and with the exception of one city (Vancouver), Canada's major cities are located in the interior of the country. Where is New York? and How big is JFK?

Re: In the article "Socialism is Crippling Canada" (first link below), Eric Margolis reveals that under the Liberal Party "the federal government went from consuming 30% of national income to 53%."

Granted the Liberal party has destroyed much of Canada politicially, Socialists are not to blame. The blame should be layed on those who abused their power for personal gain. There are good liberals and bad. If Canada's liberal party could run Canada very effectively, without a massive tax burden and keeping Canada competative, then what is wrong with Socialist Health Care, what is wrong with helping people out? As long as they have their priorities straight, I don't care.

This guy just wants to point out that Canada is at fault for 9-11, Gays, eventhough people too, have far too much power in Canada, and marijuana (in his terms all drugs) are going to be legal. What Canada does is Canada's problem.


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Old 07-16-2003, 12:22 PM   #2
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Yeah, when everything ran amok, it is the neighbours' fault. Some poeple are just too eager to blame on others.

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Old 07-16-2003, 12:25 PM   #3
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Total bs that part saying "Many of the 9/11 terrorists came in from Canada." Like you said Pritchke. Damn that boils my blood. Guess what Tom Barrett you bloody moron, all of those terrorists went through US customs.


This guy is a fear monger.
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Old 07-16-2003, 12:30 PM   #4
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I thought the 9/11 terrorists mostly came from Saudia Arbia?

Oh well, we can still Blame Canada!

note: the song linked contains naughty words.


edit: opps!

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Old 07-16-2003, 12:39 PM   #5
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Quote:
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We must blame them and cause a fuss
Before someone thinks of blaming uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuus
I think that line in the song says it all quite well Mr. Tom Barrett.
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Old 07-16-2003, 01:10 PM   #6
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Um, Rokenn, you might want to consider editing that song for explicit language.
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Old 07-16-2003, 01:14 PM   #7
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Um, Rokenn, you might want to consider editing that song for explicit language.
Doh, missed the naughty words in there [img]smile.gif[/img] Changed it to a link.
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Old 07-16-2003, 01:53 PM   #8
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Pritchke, no need to explain yourself there. After reaing the article i can come to no other conclusion that it's written by a bonehead.
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This guy should hook up with Anne Coulter. A match of ignorance made in heaven. [img]smile.gif[/img]
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Here is an article by a guy who has watched "South Park: The movie" one too many times.
I find your choice of font somewhat conservative pritchke!
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