A paean to bards and a wee update on the power party

[Aerich]

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: PS: Druids can attack with their 'normal' weapons( i.e. Frostbrand) while in shapeshift form. No need to torment yourself with 1 ApR.

Shweet. Bug?

I did notice that my polar bear had 4 ApR, but I didn't make any connections at the time.

My F/D has been sitting just shy of 7th lvl spells for a while now - the jump from 750 000 to 1 500 000 is just too huge, especially with a multiclass. I'll hang out and kill undead near the idol for a little while. She will be levelling up soon.

[NobleNick]

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: Oh hohoho... look down not on the MCed Fighter/Druid, for verily can the class be stinky of cheese.

????

What puzzles me even more than the last phrase of Dundee's comment is that Aerich apparently understands it...

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What's a party,
without a song?
Bards ROCK!
Party On!!
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[Aerich]

Cheese = cheesy tactics.

Like the use of Otiluke's Resilient Sphere before the patch - monsters would not switch targets even though they couldn't hurt a character.

Also like a water elemental shapechange + the belt that gives slashing resistance + War Chant giving 100+% slashing resistance. With 8 static charges going. Leading the charge against drowned dead.

I used a new combo against the fire salamanders recently - Protection from Fire + Resist Fire/Cold + druid shapechange to winter wolf draws their attention, bard stands behind and casts Cone of Cold; druid takes no damage from cold or fire, salamanders die. Took out Shikata and five others with one shot. [img]smile.gif[/img]

[Dundee Slaytern]

Originally posted by Aerich: quote: Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: PS: Druids can attack with their 'normal' weapons( i.e. Frostbrand) while in shapeshift form. No need to torment yourself with 1 ApR.

Shweet. Bug? ~~[/QUOTE]Exploitation of the game engine, hence cheese. The key lies in removing the 'magical' weapon that they get when they shapeshift. If you prefer a direct answer instead of figuring it out yourself, let me know.

[Aerich]

I may have heard about this before. Dispel?

If it isn't that, I don't have a clue. Please tell me.

[Dundee Slaytern]

Righto.

[NobleNick]

Dundee,

Thanks. I've been feeling rather slow, lately: especially over not figuring out your general statement about the MC F/D. But I still am feeling S-L-O-W, because I know you two are talking about a cheesy trick with the F/D; and even though I own one AND Aerich has (evidently) given the answer straight out, I can not figure it out; and I think it is because I am not taking advantage of it, or I am and don't realize it. Please clue me in.

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What's a party,
without a song?
Bards ROCK!
Party On!!


[ 03-04-2005, 08:38 AM: Message edited by: NobleNick ]

[Dundee Slaytern]

Eh? I could have sworn you already know about this, but I'm too tired to search for the relevant thread. Anyhoo, just cast Dispel Magic on your Druid when he/she is shapeshifted. The 'magic' paw/claw/whatever will disappear and your shapeshifted Druid can now use his/her equipped weapon.

I'm pretty sure I told you this already. I seem to recall that you were pretty excited about being to use a sling for your Druid while in Elemental form.