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Old 09-17-2001, 12:09 AM   #11
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OK, that is ENOUGH!!!

**got to be strong for her**

professional help?
she said she has Bipolar Depression, or had. neither way, the doctor said the cause is "she never expressed her feelings"

I've always been there for her, or tried. I did everything I could to make her happy, but it just seems like a cycle here!

whenever she is happy, laughing... then the next day, BOOOM! drop back to depression, and most of all, she REFUSE to talk about her life... **so frustraited**

do you think maybe I need some more patience here? do you think I should not press the issue too much?
IF you don't care what we say, don't ask! *grinds teeth*

*sighs* patience? can't answer that.... just be there that's all

HEY! does she write or draw? might be way for her to express herself....



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Old 09-17-2001, 12:10 AM   #12
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250, is she on meds? If not, maybe they would help her...or if she is on meds, they could be the wrong ones, or may be counterproductive with others that she's taking.



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Old 09-17-2001, 12:11 AM   #13
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IF you don't care what we say, don't ask!
?? where you got THAT idea?
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Old 09-17-2001, 12:12 AM   #14
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250, is she on meds? If not, maybe they would help her...or if she is on meds, they could be the wrong ones, or may be counterproductive with others that she's taking.

OHHH NO!
talking about meds! she rejects medicine, yes, she DOES NOT take pills no mattar what people say to her

she said because she is 19 so it is her CHOICE
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Old 09-17-2001, 12:12 AM   #15
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This might be totally wacky but it might be worth a try:

Book yourself an appointment with a psychologist. Explain to him that you're looking to help a friend who is in denial. Ask you friend to come with you as moral support.

Arange for the shrink to ask questions like what is wrong? At which point you answer that you are deeply troubled and hurt because one of your friends is not feeling good and you keep going on. Don't mention that she is the friend. Let her figure it out on her own.

You never know, it might work.

Good luck

Yep, this is really a crazy idea

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Old 09-17-2001, 12:13 AM   #16
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This might be totally wacky but it might be worth a try:

Book yourself an appointment with a psychologist. Explain to him that you're looking to help a friend who is in denial. Ask you friend to come with you as moral support.

Arange for the shrink to ask questions like what is wrong? At which point you answer that you are deeply troubled and hurt because one of your friends is not feeling good and you keep going on. Don't mention that she is the friend. Let her figure it out on her own.

You never know, it might work.

Good luck

I love you!

(not that kinda...)

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Old 09-17-2001, 12:14 AM   #17
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250, is she on meds? If not, maybe they would help her...or if she is on meds, they could be the wrong ones, or may be counterproductive with others that she's taking.


now there's a possibility! known someone who was given too much medicine by his nurse and family....
until his daughter-in-law noticed the problem and corrected the dosage

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Old 09-17-2001, 12:14 AM   #18
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250, she doesn't love herself. You have to find out why, if you can. She will neve be happy if she doesn't think she is a worthwhile person, and if she doesn't love herself.
It is no good you TELLING her she is loveable and worthwhile. She has to discover WHY she feels bad about herself, THEN she, with help, can start to see that whoever MADE her feel bad about herself was not speaking or acting truthfully with her.
In the meantime, look for every positive thing you can in her. Is she pretty? Tell her so, even if she doesn't believe it, but don't push it. Is she good at certain things. Praise her, when appropriate, but don't overdo it....
Take her to nice places, let her know you are happy to be with her - even when you wish inside that she would cheer up 'cos she is making you miserable as well....
Above all, stay positive yourself. I YOU get down you won't be any help to her.
Hope this helps.

Thats basicly what I said to do, just not as long

*sigh* People can say things so much beter than I can

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Old 09-17-2001, 12:14 AM   #19
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250, I have a strong suspicion that her condition is organic, and possibly controllable by medication. If she rejects meds, maybe there are some holistic or alternative (re: herbal or homeopathic) forms of treatment. Whatever, she needs to look into something to help her, because from what you're saying, she is not coping well with her condition as it currently stands.

I'll see what I can find on homeopathic or other alternative treatment options.



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Old 09-17-2001, 12:14 AM   #20
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I love you!

(not that kinda...)

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And you thought I was just the "most crazy bastard you've ever met"

Well, I guess I'm to come up with the stuff I do

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