Death spell; to get or not to get ?

whacky · 07-18-2002, 10:45 AM

Its really been troubling me, and now it time to decide. Im playing a solo sorcerer which means i have to be very careful while choosing spells, so should i get the death spell or not, 'cause it kills monsters with 60 hit points or less, is it worth it?
BTW what percentage of the monsters are actually having 60 or less HP.
Thanks in advance !

Sazerac · 07-18-2002, 11:16 AM

It's not worth it in the long run. It's great if you have a mage, but so many monsters are "Death Warded" or resistant, or have over 60 HP in the later parts of the game and in ToB, you'd be wasting it.

-Saz

Dundee Slaytern · 07-18-2002, 11:17 AM

Death Spell kills targets with 8 HitDice and less. This includes...

Umber Hulks,
Minotaurs,
Trolls,
Sahuagins,
Kuo-Tuas,
Hobgoblins,
Orcs,
etc... ...

Ah, basically yes... it is worth it.

Dundee Slaytern · 07-18-2002, 11:21 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sazerac:
It's not worth it in the long run. It's great if you have a mage, but so many monsters are "Death Warded" or resistant, or have over 60 HP in the later parts of the game and in ToB, you'd be wasting it.
-Saz

That is not really true. I was still using Death Spell well into ToB, and it affects those with 8HitDice or less, not <60Hp. Oh... and it dispels any summons as well, very useful against enemy mages.

Cannibal Monkey · 07-18-2002, 12:52 PM

yep, get it - tis invaluable when fighting the drow spider person, when doing the unseeing eye quest and most others - mainly when you're being attacked by millions of naff little beasties and you're taking damage in 1s simply because there's so many of them - example: kobolds in the sewers, one blast from this and just mop up the survivors and take out the rakshasa.

Sazerac · 07-18-2002, 01:16 PM

Sorry, but I must differ here. I have *never* yet dropped any creature with the Death spell. "Finger of Death" works a lot better (7th level Mage), if that's what you're thinking of, but the 6th level Death spell never works for me; by the time I get it, the opponents are so tough they withstand it.

Maybe I'm using it on the wrong ones (I *know* not to use it on undead, so don't go there!)

or at the wrong times, but I've pretty well chucked it as a useless spell. There's far better ones out there, IMO, that do the job more efficiently.

-Sazerac

Kronostia · 07-18-2002, 01:24 PM

Death spell rules if you ask [img]smile.gif[/img]

U can even use it against Vamps !
any fledged vampires out there go bye bye.
And i think that Deathspell is still useful when in ToB [img]smile.gif[/img]

. I have *never* yet dropped any creature with the Death spell. Sazerac ?!?!?! how can this be ?!?!? It works on nearly everything in SoA and very much in ToB...say that u r going through Athkala and u get jumped by bandits while going between Areas...a Deathspell kills all except 1-2 of them

[ 07-18-2002, 01:25 PM: Message edited by: Kronostia ]

Sir Exxon · 07-18-2002, 01:32 PM

The Death Spell is definetly worth having. It is really useful when you fight against big parties of weak or medium creatures, they just drop like flies. So yes, learn Death Spell as soon as possible! [img]smile.gif[/img]

LennonCook · 07-18-2002, 07:25 PM

Saz- ever tried it on Prebek ??

I find it VERY useful... almost as good as two fireballs

When you use it, target it about halfway between you and the things that charge you, or if your almost in melee range before they charge, target it in the middle of them...

SixOfSpades · 07-18-2002, 07:32 PM

Actually, I've never killed anything with Death Spell either, simply because a Wand of Cloudkill does practically the same thing, AND keeps on hurtin' the ones it didn't kill.

And yes, Dundee, that's why I carry Wands, although Fire and Cloudkill are the only ones I really use. Plus, Cloudkill from Wands ignores the victims' Magic Resistance, great for use on Illithids or.....a certain big fight against lots and lots of Monks. Slap some Regenerative gear on a Tank, Cloudkill the hell out of the area, and PAARRR-TEEEE!

07-18-2002, 11:16 AM	#2
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 60 Posts: 7,387	It's not worth it in the long run. It's great if you have a mage, but so many monsters are "Death Warded" or resistant, or have over 60 HP in the later parts of the game and in ToB, you'd be wasting it. -Saz __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

07-18-2002, 12:52 PM	#5
Cannibal Monkey The Magister Join Date: April 8, 2002 Location: Here in England Age: 36 Posts: 102	yep, get it - tis invaluable when fighting the drow spider person, when doing the unseeing eye quest and most others - mainly when you're being attacked by millions of naff little beasties and you're taking damage in 1s simply because there's so many of them - example: kobolds in the sewers, one blast from this and just mop up the survivors and take out the rakshasa. __________________ G\'Blah!

07-18-2002, 01:16 PM	#6
Sazerac Ironworks Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Monroe, LA Age: 60 Posts: 7,387	Sorry, but I must differ here. I have never yet dropped any creature with the Death spell. "Finger of Death" works a lot better (7th level Mage), if that's what you're thinking of, but the 6th level Death spell never works for me; by the time I get it, the opponents are so tough they withstand it. Maybe I'm using it on the wrong ones (I know not to use it on undead, so don't go there!) or at the wrong times, but I've pretty well chucked it as a useless spell. There's far better ones out there, IMO, that do the job more efficiently. -Sazerac __________________ "And all my days are trances, and all my nightly dreams, Are where thy grey eye glances, and where thy footstep gleams, In what ethereal dances, by what eternal streams..."

07-18-2002, 01:24 PM	#7
Kronostia The Magister Join Date: February 17, 2002 Location: Sweden Posts: 122	Death spell rules if you ask [img]smile.gif[/img] U can even use it against Vamps ! any fledged vampires out there go bye bye. And i think that Deathspell is still useful when in ToB [img]smile.gif[/img] . I have never yet dropped any creature with the Death spell. Sazerac ?!?!?! how can this be ?!?!? It works on nearly everything in SoA and very much in ToB...say that u r going through Athkala and u get jumped by bandits while going between Areas...a Deathspell kills all except 1-2 of them [ 07-18-2002, 01:25 PM: Message edited by: Kronostia ] __________________ Magic for the fun of it, war because the need for it. And Murder for the pleasure of it. BackStab is the word of ecstacy.

07-18-2002, 07:32 PM	#10
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 46 Posts: 6,901	Actually, I've never killed anything with Death Spell either, simply because a Wand of Cloudkill does practically the same thing, AND keeps on hurtin' the ones it didn't kill. And yes, Dundee, that's why I carry Wands, although Fire and Cloudkill are the only ones I really use. Plus, Cloudkill from Wands ignores the victims' Magic Resistance, great for use on Illithids or.....a certain big fight against lots and lots of Monks. Slap some Regenerative gear on a Tank, Cloudkill the hell out of the area, and PAARRR-TEEEE! __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

07-18-2002, 10:45 AM	#1
whacky Emerald Dragon Join Date: July 16, 2002 Location: The Abyss Age: 36 Posts: 904	Its really been troubling me, and now it time to decide. Im playing a solo sorcerer which means i have to be very careful while choosing spells, so should i get the death spell or not, 'cause it kills monsters with 60 hit points or less, is it worth it? BTW what percentage of the monsters are actually having 60 or less HP. Thanks in advance !

07-18-2002, 11:17 AM	#3
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 41 Posts: 11,063	Death Spell kills targets with 8 HitDice and less. This includes... Umber Hulks, Minotaurs, Trolls, Sahuagins, Kuo-Tuas, Hobgoblins, Orcs, etc... ... Ah, basically yes... it is worth it.

07-18-2002, 01:32 PM	#8
Sir Exxon Zartan Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 35 Posts: 5,367	The Death Spell is definetly worth having. It is really useful when you fight against big parties of weak or medium creatures, they just drop like flies. So yes, learn Death Spell as soon as possible! [img]smile.gif[/img]

07-18-2002, 07:25 PM	#9
LennonCook Jack Burton Join Date: November 10, 2001 Location: Bathurst & Orange, in constant flux Age: 37 Posts: 5,452	Saz- ever tried it on Prebek ?? I find it VERY useful... almost as good as two fireballs When you use it, target it about halfway between you and the things that charge you, or if your almost in melee range before they charge, target it in the middle of them...

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