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Old 06-14-2004, 01:10 PM   #61
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As groj said there's several threads rehashing the information, most on boards I don't frequent, so I'm not "up to date" on which ones have been tossed around many times, but for example I don't think he ever said anything reasonable about the Lockheed Martin plant (they don't build missiles or weapons but satellite parts) his response was along the lines of "well, the company itself builds them so what this branch builds is irrelevant", he also ignored when he was challenged about the memorial from the korean war (a successful bombing run against communist NK's on x-mas eve, and began complaining about how horrible it was. x-mas is not a holiday in NK and it was a legitmate attack against legitimate military targets, not celebrating civilians like he suggests).

but I won't get into a debate on how horrible Moore's ideas are, or how he uses the very terror tactics he decries in the national media, it's been hashed and rehashed many times, and if you want a debate go to CE or GD and wait for me to show up and debate there.

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Old 06-14-2004, 03:27 PM   #62
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Well, very briefly on the Lockheed Martin point you raise I'm afraid he has answered that in detail. There is unused footage available on the site I posted of Moore asking the Lockheed spokesman what they produce and him saying military satellites. Its as explicit an admission as you can find, but seeing as how throughout the whole scene Moore and the spokesman were standing in front of a large rocket sitting in the factory with the words "US Air Force" written on it, Moore never thought anyone would question the fact that they produce weapons.

I too, like Grojlach, have problems with a lot of Moore's stuff - and I'm as left wing as they get. But he's had nothing like a fair hearing, either on this website or in the media in general. His critics are quite plainly out to discredit him, as there is overwhelming evidence out there to back him up but this kind of slander keeps cropping up all the same...
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Old 06-15-2004, 09:43 AM   #63
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Honey I Blew Up The Kid - My only excuse for seeing this film in the cinema is that I hadn't seen it's predecesser.

Species - Absolute load of cack! I rarely give any of my films away, but I was eager to get rid of this one.

Judge Dread - How to murder a comic book anti-hero. I AM DU LAW. Get my drift? .
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Old 06-15-2004, 10:02 AM   #64
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This list could go on for ever! Anyway, here's my two cents worth.

Dungeons & Dragons - Unacceptable abuse of a good license

Killer Tomatoes - George Clooney for best actor? I don't think so!

On Deadly Ground - Seagal, people buy your films for the fighting, not the acting. Stick to what you do best.

Streetfighter - Kylie, stick to singing and shaking your butt.
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Old 06-15-2004, 06:40 PM   #65
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i agree with kinslyer for dungeons and dragons i mean wut the heck were they thinking they just gave it the title to attract viewers and personally that just ticked me off being a d&d player my self
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Old 06-15-2004, 06:43 PM   #66
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also the 3rd jurrasic park was just horrible even compared to the lost world lol [img]tongue.gif[/img]
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Old 06-16-2004, 01:29 PM   #67
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Harry potter 1 and 2. Gods, they were even worse than "dracula" of francis coppola, and that took some skill.

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Old 06-16-2004, 09:00 PM   #68
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Black Baron, could you please give more reasons? Ive seen all Harry P. movies and I love them all, what didn't you liked about the first and the second one? Was it music? Acting? Story?
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Old 06-17-2004, 02:15 AM   #69
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Hmmm, let me think...
cutting, cutting and cutting again.
You see, i am a big fun of long movies, when it is "close to the text".
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Old 06-17-2004, 05:37 AM   #70
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<font color=pink>*kills Baron* No one disses HP on my watch!! *runs* </font>
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