More reason for you Terrorist Supporters to Cheer

[Lanesra]

This blowing up houses and villages thing, didn't the Nazi's do that sort of thing ,and didn't we have a big fight with them or something ?

[ 06-19-2004, 03:31 PM: Message edited by: Lanesra ]

[Black Baron]

The Nazis adopted the method of Tukhachevsky-the hostage method. They also used sometimes the blowing up houses method. As strange as it sounds, it worked. The majority of "resistance" was done by partisans that did not live in the villages/cities, and the total majority of the local population did not give them their support.

[Lanesra]

Originally posted by Black Baron: The Nazis adopted the method of Tukhachevsky-the hostage method. They also used sometimes the blowing up houses method. As strange as it sounds, it worked. The majority of "resistance" was done by partisans that did not live in the villages/cities, and the total majority of the local population did not give them their support.

Well there you go then, the whole population didn't support them , bad idea then?

[Timber Loftis]

Originally posted by Donut: What we are disagreeing about here is YOUR opinion, and that's subjective not objective. You appear to be claiming that I support terrorism.

How? I don't think I claimed that you supported terrorism.

[Black Baron]

They did not support the partisans, not the nazis. While they did not like the nazis, they have done nothing to oppose them.

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by MagiK: J.D. I agree..if you are going to do something DO IT, don't ■■■■■ foot around. Just get it done. However...Im not sure we have to take ALL compassion out of the equation.

There is lies the problem MagiK, war is not compassionate. As you know war is the most vile and deadly endever(sp?) we as humans can engage in. We in the west have trouble reconciling our desire for compassion, or our societies desire for compassion with war. So we try to make war nicer and friendly which is a mutualy exclusive oximoron. Our enemy has not those constrants they have no problem targeting innocent civilains, we have a problem targeting civilains wiether they are innocent or not. We have military men courtmaritailed(sp?) for accidently dropping a bomb in the wrong location, we look long and hard at any accident and investigate it in an effort to stop it and not have it happen again. Our enemy does not do the same thing, they praise their people who target innocent civilains. Whip any others that might be able to commit the same types of acts in the future with promises of martyrdom and rewards awaiting them in the afterlife. Many of our troops strugle with the acts they commit in war, and the effects those acts will have on their afterlife. I'm not for shooting everybody give them that doesn't want a piece of it, give them a chance to get out, but them that want a piece of it, utterly destroy with extreme prejudice. I'm not willing that one american should die so that others can feel good, Not saying you are either. IF one american wishes to die so that others can feel good that is their right, not mine, they can do so.

[John D Harris]

[quote]Originally posted by Donut:

I would agree normally. But to my incredulity it has been brought to my attention that TL means me! It hadn't even crossed my mind that he could be so stupid as to believe this to be true!

Ask TL about it, I've NOT found TL to be a lair, I've found him to speak the truth as best he can in all situaitions. If he means you he'll say so if he doesn't mean you he'll say so. Take him at his word.

[promethius9594]

john,

war is indeed not a nice buisiness, but it is still a buisiness and as such demands a certain level of professionalism. flattening an entire city and blasting every home to pieces is not only inhumane, its not soldierly and detrimental to the cause.

HOWEVER, i agree, we take war too lightly in our little corner of the world here. i would have no problem laying seige to a city, cutting off power, water, gas and food access and allowing any who wanted to leave the city for my refuge campe until the insurectionists turned themselves in or were destroyed by their own people. that way, after alls said and done, the people can go back to their lives.

we forget, today, that the civil war was only won when one general had the cajones to cut a swath through the rural south, destroying every resource (military and civilian) in his path, while the other general repeatedly hit towns and armies with unstoppable assualts. i fear if we ever meet an enemy anywhere remotely close to our level of military prowess, that we could lose because we were too afraid and locked up to act as TRUE war (not these little skirmishes) DEMANDS in order to succeed.

[John D Harris]

Originally posted by shamrock_uk: quote: Originally posted by John D Harris: I got no problem being called a war monger.

I noticed. And somehow i'd never have guessed you're from the US military...

[/QUOTE]Never said I was, but if I'm going to enjoy the confort and freedom that comes from the sacirfices of these men and women. I'm sure going to fight for them to have all they need in supplies and support from home. It's my responsiblity to make sure they get what they need and when they need it, and any tactic they need to employee to make it safer for them they have my support unconditionaly, I owe them a debt and I'll not turn my back on that debt. Any comparisions can be made to any society at any time. It will not deter me from doing what I can for people that have volunteered to place their lives on the line, so I can be fat and happy. I know which side my bread is buttered on. If they need more troops I say give it to them, if they need new weapons I say get them the new weapons. If the reserves need a tax break because they are not able to feed their families on a military salary, give them the tax break, and a raise in military pay. "Hale" anyone in combat should not pay any taxes. We the people, enjoying th fruits of these people's labor should insist that anyone killed in combat their families are taken care of. Their childern recieve full scholarships to the college of their choice with in the USA. I don't want to see a single US soldier die when we wouldn't back them in any endevor, because it might hurt the feelings of somebody or another country. What are feelings compared to a human life?

[Black Baron]

Donut, i think that TL means quite another person. I am 100% sure about that, because sometimes i feel almost the same. You can figure out who he is.