KOTOR 2 Official Thread: Post your experiences here! [spoilers]

[ratchild]

Ok, Finished this up, and a couple of comments.

1. It's not finished. They publisher (Lucasarts, notorious for rushing developers) forced an early release for christmas season. The

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end sucks. You go from the first 90% of the game being superb and mysterious storywise, to the last 10% being utter SHITE, story wise. You basically lose all reason to do anything, and combined with the repetitiveness and uselessness of the last planet, it feels like crap compared to rest of game. The end dialogue is a cheap out for it, it felt like they couldn't even do a video. there were a lot of loose ends, like, what the hell were all the droids doing going around zapping each other in those cutscenes, and whatever came of it?

2. I got all my frequently used characters all maxed out on lightside, including Visas and handmaiden. they both ended up pretty powerful, and were a lot of fun.

3. I pretty much ignored kreia after the first planet... her influence isn't necessary. I did find it difficult to gain influence with Atton, and couldnt' even get any conversations started with bao dur, he just had the "see you later" option whenever i talkd to him.

4. The crash to desktop issue seems to only be on ATI video cards, in relation to some issue in their drivers. The version 4.11 should solve these issues, from what i've read, but doesn't on my system at least.

[Luvian]

To get to pick a special class you need to be at least 90% dark or light.

Ihad lots of crash and I have an nvidia.

[Memnoch]

I've only had one crash so far...the funny thing that's happened to me is that I have a hologram of Admiral Carth on the Ebon Hawk.

[Luvian]

Originally posted by Memnoch: I've only had one crash so far...the funny thing that's happened to me is that I have a hologram of Admiral Carth on the Ebon Hawk.

The whole Carth holo dialog with your droid is heavily bugged and only half completed. There even is missing dialog parts, so I just watched it and reloaded.

[Thoran]

I use Kria a lot, I agree with Luvian... she's extremely effective. Typically Horror will incapacitate 70% or more of attackers, then it's like shooting ducks in a barrel. Combined with my Jedi Sentinal character using Battle Meditiation and the Energy shield power (can't remember the name of that one), combat that is very challenging if I just go in swinging becomes almost a joke. It almost makes me think the game is unbalanced, "boss" characters are just about as easy to kill as any others. Of course I have not faced any REAL Sith yet (or any Force wielders for that matter), just Sith soldiers.

[Memnoch]

*minor spoilers about NPC class progression*

OK, so far I have the following in my party (I've done Telos, Dantooine, Nar Shaddaa and have just crashed on Dxun):

• Me (female Jedi Sentinel/Watchman)
• Kreia - always with me
• Atton (now a Jedi Sentinel) - used on Nar Shaddaa and Telos (and a bit of Dantooine)
• Bao-Dur - only started to use on Dxun
• Mira - haven't used (except on Nar Shaddaa, not by choice)
• T3 - used for storyline purposes
• Disciple (now a Jedi Consular) - used in Dantooine
• HK-47 - just built him after Nar Shaddaa, unused so far
• GO-10 - gotten after Nar Shaddaa, unused
• Visas - gotten after Dantooine, used on GOTO's yacht, that's it

I'd like to use some of the other guys but I just can't see how Mira, GOTO or HK would add value to my party. I'm stuck with Kreia for story purposes, so I really only have one other slot to gain influence with other NPCs. I'm trying to gain influence with Bao-Dur now to turn him to the Jedi path, but since I'm doing that I can't use Visas who I'd REALLY like to use - she looks really cool. Unfortunately she's 1) already a Jedi; 2) a Sentinel like myself; and 3)I've already gained heaps of influence with her. So I've left her on the ship.

Who did you guys manage your NPCs? It's really REALLY annoying that you can only bring two.

[ 03-05-2005, 02:09 AM: Message edited by: Memnoch ]

[Luvian]

Simple, you change your npcs around even on most map by going to the character screen.

If you see a dialog that raise a character's reputation but you don't want to raise that one, then reload, and do it again with another character.

When I got in a noe town, I'd use the npcs I want to raise influence with, when I want to go int a fighting "dungeon" I switch to my favorite npcs.

By the way, you don't have to get +influence, -influence work as well.

Positive influence turn the npc to your aligment, Negative one send him the opposite way. This won'T prevent you from turning the character in a Jedi.

For example, in my evil game I decided to be an ass with Bao Dar. Every time I got the chance I was mean and annoying to him, I would also do the opposite of what he wanted.

I was Dark Side mastered, so he became Light Side mastered. When I talked to him later in the ship, he still gave me the "Jedi" dialog.

The problem with this is that you can end up with characters that are your opposite aligment, but I think that's how the game should be really played. Evil characters will become more evil, good one will become more good.

It's a lot easier to get -influence than +influence, btw. There are a lot more oppportunity.

[Memnoch]

Originally posted by Luvian: Simple, you change your npcs around even on most map by going to the character screen.

This only works in certain situations though...you can't do it on Onderon, right?

By the way, you don't have to get +influence, -influence work as well. Positive influence turn the npc to your aligment, Negative one send him the opposite way. This won'T prevent you from turning the character in a Jedi. For example, in my evil game I decided to be an ass with Bao Dar. Every time I got the chance I was mean and annoying to him, I would also do the opposite of what he wanted. I was Dark Side mastered, so he became Light Side mastered. When I talked to him later in the ship, he still gave me the "Jedi" dialog. The problem with this is that you can end up with characters that are your opposite aligment, but I think that's how the game should be really played. Evil characters will become more evil, good one will become more good. It's a lot easier to get -influence than +influence, btw. There are a lot more oppportunity.

This is interesting - I didn't realise this. But I'm confused about how it works if I'm Dark Side and I want to turn a Lightsider (eg Bao Dur or Atton) to the Dark - it seems as though most of the ways to gain positive influence with them involves Light side choices (eg spare innocents, help the Republic, etc). Does this mean that I need to make Light Side influence choices to turn them to the Dark Side?

[Thoran]

Well I think I've run into a serious bug. I'm on Nar Shadda and have done everything I could to be annoying to the exchange... but they have not come after me. I've done every sidequest as far as I could, talked to every character. I'm told they're supposted to request a meeting with me alone but they have not. I've also been told that I should be able to give 2000 credits to the little guy outside the cantina to get them to come after me, but he never gives me that dialog option.

I'm about to give up on the light side and restart with a dark side character.

[Memnoch]

Hmmm. I managed to trigger that off by going back to my ship and then leaving it again, that was when I got the message. I've found it helps to go in and out of your ship at times, it triggers off some cutscenes. That was after I'd done most, but not all, the quests (including the dancing girl quest).