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Raistlin Majere · 12-22-2002, 05:01 AM

correct me if im wrong, but the cloak of mirroring and the shield of balduran wont turn back the imprisonment of an elder orb. also, the cloak of mirroring is balanced out just a little bit in ToB, making it so it doesnt fire back the spells, just deflects them.

Sever · 12-22-2002, 05:08 AM

With all this talk about MR, i just had to check up on an old save game. Viconia (level 35) had 80% magic resistance at the end of ToB. 15% of this was due to amulet of seldarine (10%) and holy symbol of talos (5%). This leaves a base MR of 65%. I am not as familiar as i should be with cleric levelling (nor wizard slayers beyond low levels), but this seems to high. How much base MR does a wizard slayer have at similar xp (=<6300000)?

LennonCook · 12-22-2002, 05:27 AM

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Originally posted by Raistlin Majere:
correct me if im wrong, but the cloak of mirroring and the shield of balduran wont turn back the imprisonment of an elder orb. also, the cloak of mirroring is balanced out just a little bit in ToB, making it so it doesnt fire back the spells, just deflects them.

Shield of Balduron does, unless you have the Improved Beholders Mod.
Not sure about the Cloak of Mirroring, though.

Alson · 12-22-2002, 11:29 AM

Actually, i'm quite sure that the Shield won't bounce Imprisonment, Improved Beholders or not.

Zuvio · 12-22-2002, 06:15 PM

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With all this talk about MR, i just had to check up on an old save game. Viconia (level 35) had 80% magic resistance at the end of ToB. 15% of this was due to amulet of seldarine (10%) and holy symbol of talos (5%). This leaves a base MR of 65%. I am not as familiar as i should be with cleric levelling (nor wizard slayers beyond low levels), but this seems to high. How much base MR does a wizard slayer have at similar xp (=<6300000)?

Could be right: a lvl 34 wizard slayer has 6.500.000 XP and base 66%MR.

Jim · 12-24-2002, 04:17 AM

Noooooo...the beastmaster does *not* suck!

1.) They can cast find familiar as an innate ability. Cast it, then stick it in your inventory to recieve around a +12 HP increase. This gives them more HP than any other warrior class bar the barbarian!

2.) They will eventually be able to cast a 6th level summoning spell. As a ranger, they will eventually be able to cast 3 level 3 spells (and hence 3 summon animal 3 spells) therefore summoning up to 5 tough bears/lions/wolves! This is not to be sniffed at, as they act as excellent decoys while the beastmaster moves in for the flank attack. No other warrior has this summoning potential (unless you start talking about MC/DC, but I'm talking about pure classes here).

3.) The weapon/armour restrictions are simply a minor set back. Combining the Staff of Rhynn + 4 with the Shadow Dragon Scale (both available *early* SoA) or the Staff of the Ram +4/+6 with the White Dragon Scale (early ToB too!) and you have great melee capabilities.

Also, the Bard is an excellent class! Using a blade for example, you can dual wield Crom Faeyr with the Scarlet Ninja To and the GoES to get 7/2 APR and a rock bottom THAC0, combe this with some powerful elven chain and you have a tank. THEN cast blur, mirror image, stoneskin and protection from magic weapons, offensive spin/defensive spin and you are damn near indestructable! I found this class the easiest to solo through SoA and ToB with all the improved bosses. A master of ALL trades and jack of none!

12-22-2002, 05:01 AM	#51
Raistlin Majere Ra Join Date: March 26, 2002 Location: Finland Age: 37 Posts: 2,323	correct me if im wrong, but the cloak of mirroring and the shield of balduran wont turn back the imprisonment of an elder orb. also, the cloak of mirroring is balanced out just a little bit in ToB, making it so it doesnt fire back the spells, just deflects them. __________________ If the radiance of a thousand suns were to burst forth at once in the sky, that would be like the splendor of the Mighty One. "I am become death, the destroyer of worlds."

12-22-2002, 05:08 AM	#52
Sever Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: October 31, 2002 Location: Western Australia Age: 44 Posts: 3,293	With all this talk about MR, i just had to check up on an old save game. Viconia (level 35) had 80% magic resistance at the end of ToB. 15% of this was due to amulet of seldarine (10%) and holy symbol of talos (5%). This leaves a base MR of 65%. I am not as familiar as i should be with cleric levelling (nor wizard slayers beyond low levels), but this seems to high. How much base MR does a wizard slayer have at similar xp (=<6300000)? __________________ Say say, oh playmate i cannot play with you my dolly's got the flu boo hoo hoo hoo hoo hoo

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12-22-2002, 11:29 AM	#54
Alson Galvatron Join Date: December 14, 2001 Location: Israel Age: 38 Posts: 2,187	Actually, i'm quite sure that the Shield won't bounce Imprisonment, Improved Beholders or not.

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Jim Quintesson Join Date: May 1, 2001 Location: Leeds, West Yorkshire, England Age: 45 Posts: 1,088	Noooooo...the beastmaster does not suck! 1.) They can cast find familiar as an innate ability. Cast it, then stick it in your inventory to recieve around a +12 HP increase. This gives them more HP than any other warrior class bar the barbarian! 2.) They will eventually be able to cast a 6th level summoning spell. As a ranger, they will eventually be able to cast 3 level 3 spells (and hence 3 summon animal 3 spells) therefore summoning up to 5 tough bears/lions/wolves! This is not to be sniffed at, as they act as excellent decoys while the beastmaster moves in for the flank attack. No other warrior has this summoning potential (unless you start talking about MC/DC, but I'm talking about pure classes here). 3.) The weapon/armour restrictions are simply a minor set back. Combining the Staff of Rhynn + 4 with the Shadow Dragon Scale (both available early SoA) or the Staff of the Ram +4/+6 with the White Dragon Scale (early ToB too!) and you have great melee capabilities. Also, the Bard is an excellent class! Using a blade for example, you can dual wield Crom Faeyr with the Scarlet Ninja To and the GoES to get 7/2 APR and a rock bottom THAC0, combe this with some powerful elven chain and you have a tank. THEN cast blur, mirror image, stoneskin and protection from magic weapons, offensive spin/defensive spin and you are damn near indestructable! I found this class the easiest to solo through SoA and ToB with all the improved bosses. A master of ALL trades and jack of none!

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