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Old 08-25-2001, 10:39 AM   #21
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One thing is, I know myself, I know raping is bad, but sometimes its fun, but it is not the type of thing I will thriving on


Jesus Christ Bahamut, I sincerely hope that was just a badly phrased misformulation and not actually what you meant to say.


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Old 08-25-2001, 11:37 AM   #22
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Jesus Christ Bahamut, I sincerely hope that was just a badly phrased misformulation and not actually what you meant to say.


LOL. I saw the same thing myself earlier and just assumed it was a case of bad phrasing.



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Old 08-25-2001, 12:11 PM   #23
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LOL. I saw the same thing myself earlier and just assumed it was a case of bad phrasing.


I thought the same but you never know...thanks anyway Dio I thought *I* was crazy

EDIT: Oops....damn Melusorick again

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Old 08-25-2001, 03:10 PM   #24
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I also believe that a large part of our economy now relies on porn. Porn is one of the hugest industries in the world and the net is a big part of that.



The porn industry is not really that big, and it is certainly not a huge part of our economy

The porn industry is about a $6 Billion industry, in other words they take in about $6 Billion a year in revenues. While that might seem big, in reality it is quite small.

Some other industries by comparison:
Crafts industry (ceremics, hand-made items, quilts, etc) is a $14 Billion industry
Toy industry: $29 Billion
Music Piracy industry: $10 Billion
Alternative Medicine industry: $17 Billion

So while the porn industry might bring a 'bit' of money, the economy wouldn't really be hurt if it wasn't around


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Old 08-25-2001, 09:17 PM   #25
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Interesting thought here. A thing can be ok because people will do it anyway and that might justify something people know is wrong?

Is murder ok, since people will still be murdering each other however the society tries to stop it?

Prisons arenīt doing a thing to decrease criminality. Why not shut them all down??

Sorry for this interlude, but the way of pushing problmes away from oneself is getting alot of space here, and I just wanted to ask you all if there is nothing left worth to fight for??

Arguments like this is not going to do anything. Even if people are still going to make bad things, there is still away to show tthat you are not apart of it. You can say no. To silently agree is to hold the dagger.

When the jewes were killed in Germany during the second world war people didnīt object , partly out of fear, but what if a hundred thousand germans had been connected via internet and showed up together and said "NO!" "Stop it" this is wrong!!!? How many could have been alive today? I know this is a bit far out, but still. Think about it.

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Old 08-26-2001, 11:34 AM   #26
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Interesting thought here. A thing can be ok because people will do it anyway and that might justify something people know is wrong?

Is murder ok, since people will still be murdering each other however the society tries to stop it?

Prisons arenīt doing a thing to decrease criminality. Why not shut them all down??

Sorry for this interlude, but the way of pushing problmes away from oneself is getting alot of space here, and I just wanted to ask you all if there is nothing left worth to fight for??

Arguments like this is not going to do anything. Even if people are still going to make bad things, there is still away to show tthat you are not apart of it. You can say no. To silently agree is to hold the dagger.

When the jewes were killed in Germany during the second world war people didnīt object , partly out of fear, but what if a hundred thousand germans had been connected via internet and showed up together and said "NO!" "Stop it" this is wrong!!!? How many could have been alive today? I know this is a bit far out, but still. Think about it.

Well said Wolfgir

Many people have died in the past, merely b/c there was not a means to find others that believed the same as you and therefore it made it difficult to organize a resistance. Sometimes it was done, but in the dark, dank rooms of basements and back alleys, always looking over their shoulder with the real threat of getting caught.




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Old 08-26-2001, 12:34 PM   #27
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When the jewes were killed in Germany during the second world war people didnīt object , partly out of fear, but what if a hundred thousand germans had been connected via internet and showed up together and said "NO!" "Stop it" this is wrong!!!? How many could have been alive today? I know this is a bit far out, but still. Think about it.

Well they would of been a few thouand dead people who spoke out oh wait there is!
You can't compere internet porn to geonside it like saying because that guy littered he should be impriosoned for life because if you don't why should we do it to people who have killed.
Internet porn is a relesee for those who need it much like drinking and smoking you can set controls by people will still do it, but when lesalated you can control what kind they make.


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Old 08-26-2001, 02:49 PM   #28
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Well said Wolfgir

Many people have died in the past, merely b/c there was not a means to find others that believed the same as you and therefore it made it difficult to organize a resistance. Sometimes it was done, but in the dark, dank rooms of basements and back alleys, always looking over their shoulder with the real threat of getting caught.
And anyways who would want to resist with all the examples of people murdered who tried to? Some still did, and those people were really brave and deserve to be remembered - Hans and Sophie Scholl, for instance.

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Old 08-27-2001, 04:36 AM   #29
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Nice to see that people react at least
Well I didnīt say ban all porn did I?
I just refeared to the attitude here. I know, and considered this post a lonf time, before posting it here. Maybe it should be in itīs own post but well.. here it is.

You canīt compare the extinction of jewes woth porn, but you can compare the general attitude. And well, for the other thought. People died. Yes, people who dare to say their meaning dies.
But see what their sacrifice did for us and for their people.
This year we have witnessed Milosovic in Serbia, steppoing down from presidency. We do matter if we stand up for that we believe in.

I have no problem with "normal" internetporn. Read my earlier post. But I hate and fight childporn and abusive porn. That is what I mean with it. I know that there still are going to be hoose using children, but will i accept it and sit idle and watch?? No way..


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