How do you roleplay a Chaotic Evil Sorcerer?

[Nerull]

Originally posted by Omicron: You really can't play Chaotic evil in this game. Why? Because the story element doesn't let you. Remember that dream you have with Irenicus? It goes like "Follow and receive blah blah, if you don't innocents will suffer because of your weakness" If your chaotic, like hell do we care about Innocents, or Imoen for that matter!

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The very first dream it offers you a choice of what to say. The first option is the good and neutral one ("this isn't to be believed"), while the second option is the evil one ("I deserve power because of what I am"). I never played through all the way as evil, but doesn't that stop all of that "innocents" nonsense that an evil guy wouldn't care about?

[spydar]

get in contact with the guy who posts those "I'm a naughty boy" threads. some of those ideas he has (and does) are pure genius, and quite entertaining.

[Nerull]

Originally posted by spydar: get in contact with the guy who posts those "I'm a naughty boy" threads. some of those ideas he has (and does) are pure genius, and quite entertaining.

SixofSpades is the author of the "naughty boy" threads, but many of his suggestions fit a little better with Neutral Evil rather than Chaotic Evil. However, he still has some great suggestions. Just add a little more randomness/whim to his suggestions and you'll be fine!

[Lemmy]

(Spoiler: Discussion of dream sequences.)

Nerull:
...the second option is the evil one ("I deserve power because of what I am").

The dream sequences' "Birthright bad; denial good!" message irritates me. It presents godhood by attempting to instill a Napoleon complex in the PC. "You are small; you could be great!" Power-hungry characters would be tempted by the dreams' messages, but couldn't Neutral be power-hungry? Granted, some of the dreams focus more on "Cause suffering. It's fun!" as the lure, but I don't see why becoming the next Lord of Murder is necessarily as evil as the game tries to paint it. Perhaps the it presupposes doing so would cause you to become evil, but couldn't an unwise or very stubborn character believe they could overcome it?

Anyway, just my way of saying I don't think the dialogue option is evil, I think the motive is. [img]smile.gif[/img]

I never played through all the way as evil, but doesn't that stop all of that "innocents" nonsense that an evil guy wouldn't care about?

Not sure what you mean here.

Spydar:
get in contact with the guy who posts those "I'm a naughty boy" threads. some of those ideas he has (and does) are pure genius, and quite entertaining.

SixofSpades made those classic posts. While they are inspirational, they don't tell you how to play an internally consistent character. (Although his character consistently caused as much suffering as possible. *g*) They're excellent "outside the box" evil thinking, though. Six knows his evil. [img]smile.gif[/img]

-Lem

[Nerull]

Originally posted by Lemmy: (Spoiler: Discussion of dream sequences.) I never played through all the way as evil, but doesn't that stop all of that "innocents" nonsense that an evil guy wouldn't care about? Not sure what you mean here.

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What I'm saying is this:

If you choose the first option (the "good" option), then you have the other dream sequences where Jon is trying to convince you to accept your birthright. But what if you choose the other option, where you pretty much tell him that you have already accepted (or are willing to accept) your birthright? The one time I really played evil, I answered that, then had not a single other dream sequence that I remember rightly. Does answering that prevent the other dreams, or does Jon still show up trying to convince you to accept your birthright?

[Vedran]

In the first dream with Jon (Firestorm and petrified people):

Jon: You are born of murder, the very essence of that which takes life. You have power, if you wish it. Answer 1: I have no interest in the horrors you offer! None of this is to be believed! Jon: Really? But the consequences are so very real. Answer 2: These images are interesting to me. I deserve power because of what I am! Jon: Yes, understand what is available to you!

At the end of the second dream (kill three creatures) Jon says:

Follow, if only to protect the weak that fell because of you.

So, Nerull, it doesn't stop it - it is in another dream. The second dream will play even if one chooses the second option in the first.

[Nerull]

Originally posted by Vedran: In the first dream with Jon (Firestorm and petrified people): quote: Jon: You are born of murder, the very essence of that which takes life. You have power, if you wish it. Answer 1: I have no interest in the horrors you offer! None of this is to be believed! Jon: Really? But the consequences are so very real. Answer 2: These images are interesting to me. I deserve power because of what I am! Jon: Yes, understand what is available to you!

At the end of the second dream (kill three creatures) Jon says:

Follow, if only to protect the weak that fell because of you.

So, Nerull, it doesn't stop it - it is in another dream. The second dream will play even if one chooses the second option in the first. [/QUOTE]Hmmm...wonder why I never got that one going the evil path? Very odd.