The Terminator for Governor?

[Timber Loftis]

Originally posted by realbinky: Even though in Demolition Man, they made mention of an act of Congress that repeals that rule so that Arnie could be Pres and that he had a Shwarzanegger Presidential Library.

Art imitates life imitates art imitates life.

[Rokenn]

Originally posted by MagiK: I do believe that Mr. Davis was a instigator in many deregulations especially in the Electric Utility industry. Be interesting to see his personal accounting info on that subject [img]smile.gif[/img] I think he can be fairly listed as one of the worst money managers in that states history. [/QB]

Actually it was under Pete Wilson (R) in 1994 that the deregulation bandwagan got started. It just came to fruitition under Davis.

Deregulation Timeline

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One of the biggest contributions to the 'energy crisis' was the fact that the CPUC forbid the utility companies to enter into longterm contracts. This lead to an over-reliance on the spot market.

[ 05-27-2003, 12:04 PM: Message edited by: Rokenn ]

[Larry_OHF]

He won't take it. If he cares anything for his wife, that is. She left Washington to get away from the hype of political crap, as she is a Kennedy-blood...so what would happen if Arnie took the job? More publicity than anything else going on in the world at that time. There would be entire crews of reporters and cameramen with full-time jobs of following his every move. If he cares for his wife's peace that she has hoped for...then he'll not take it.

[Dreamer128]

To all Californians; Hasta la Vista baby Is this guy really qualified to run for governor? *shrugs* well, at least he is honest, which is more then I can say of most politicians. After all.. he did tell us that he'd be back

[robertthebard]

Originally posted by Larry_OHF: He won't take it. If he cares anything for his wife, that is. She left Washington to get away from the hype of political crap, as she is a Kennedy-blood...so what would happen if Arnie took the job? More publicity than anything else going on in the world at that time. There would be entire crews of reporters and cameramen with full-time jobs of following his every move. If he cares for his wife's peace that she has hoped for...then he'll not take it.

Uh...I think it's too late for that, all things considered. It might add two or three more, but I don't think they'd actually notice the difference. It is a pretty scary thing to be Nevada though. How many really big guns do they have in California????

[Bruce The Aussie]

i think it would be great if arnie was prez. i mean if they where to change the law. ofcoarse, i do say this so that, if they did change the law, i could run for president making me 1 step closer to world domination, woo.

Originally posted by Timber Loftis: quote: Originally posted by MagiK: ***Hysterical ranting snipped here ***

While it may have been a joke, I truly hope you don't consider my concern hysterical. Hocking our children's futures to buy tanks and cut taxes now is BAD BAD BAD. Bushie-boy is using the Eva Peron style of gaining political popularity: hock the country and dole out the dollars. As if no one will be the wiser.

Of course, having never had to worry about money much, I can understand our President's ignorance regarding responsible use of credit.

I want a tax cut. But I demand that every dollar you give back to the people represent a dollar you cut from spending. Otherwise, you've given me nothing in the end, because that dollar tax cut I hold now will cost more than a dollar to pay back. And, my taxes will do the paying there too. Cut spending. Damnit.

Sorry, all of this was [img]graemlins/offtopic.gif[/img]

Go Arnie!! [/QUOTE]
Your assumption of the trillions of $$ in debt are all based on a zero sum game and a static model...not real life. If ya want to discuss it open a thread or PM me but this really isn't the place for it. [img]smile.gif[/img] And yeah I did kind of see the bit I snipped as hysterical [img]smile.gif[/img]

Originally posted by Rokenn: Actually it was under Pete Wilson (R) in 1994 that the deregulation bandwagan got started. It just came to fruitition under Davis. So it is the fault of the people who just thought about it and not the guy who implemented it? Seems a bit whacked way of looking at it to me.

[ 05-28-2003, 09:37 AM: Message edited by: MagiK ]

[Rokenn]

Originally posted by MagiK: quote: Originally posted by Rokenn: Actually it was under Pete Wilson (R) in 1994 that the deregulation bandwagan got started. It just came to fruitition under Davis. So it is the fault of the people who just thought about it and not the guy who implemented it? Seems a bit whacked way of looking at it to me.

[/QUOTE]Wilson was the one that signed the bill into law. So he would be the one that implemented it. The CPUC order forbidding the utilities from entering into long term contracts was enacted under him. If the Utilities had been able to enter into long term contracts the manipulation of the spot market to drive prices into orbit could not have happened.


Disclaimer:
I guess I should add that I work for a utility company in California. Yes the Utilities did some things they shouldn't (like selling off more generation assests then they should have). But even if they had held on to maximium amount allowed it would not have prevented the manipulation of the Natural Gas market, which is used to generate the bulk of energy in California. Artificial shortages were created by out of state suppliers, mostly Texan companies with heavy ties to the Bush administration. Also California was not the only state hit by this, many western states had similiar issues but just got lost in the larger crisis in California. When the state went to the feds to try and reign this in they were rebuffed. In the last couple of years the truth has been coming out, which if the Dems had not been so spineless would have hung half the Bush administration out to dry. You just know if the roles had been reveresed the Reps would have cruicified a Dem administration.

hehe my disclaimer turned into a mini-rant [img]smile.gif[/img]

Wilson signed it? hmmm I left SD in 94....moved to AK...
I don't recall any big issues on deregualtion...but perhaps I was preoccupied with moving. If he did sign it into law then yes he is partly to blame, and it still falls onto Davis' head because he was in charge while it was leading up to and during the disaster. I am still agog over California's debt...when I lived there it was 10 billion...now it is 20-30 billion...when are they gonna start addressing that?