Palestinian civil war

[robertthebard]

Yeah, everybody is still recovering... :whistle:

[Black Baron]

Hamas took controll over entire gaza strip, fatah started to retaliate in western bank. Fatah members also called us to rescue them from hamas clutches in gaza. Apparently no one buys the "all will be forgiven" thingy that hamas had declared a while ago. Thousands of fatah members are being held in prison camps by hamas. They are not treated too nicely i think.

I do not see israel doing anything to help them. These idiots have brought it on themselves.

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http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/870763.html

[Iron Greasel]

Someone needs a hippie movement or twelve.

[Timber Loftis]

Originally posted by Black Baron: As a matter of fact their unity broke down-fatah suspended itself from the coalition, in protest of hamas bloody rampage through the streets of gaza. Tomorrow we will probably see the last rpg fired. Then they will start using rocks. Oh, wait it is gaza...not much rocks down there unless they blow up some building in order to resupply themselves with the ammunition of the proletariat... But wait! they have already done it! (hamas blew a building of fatah security organization with an explosive tunnel). The afore mentioned new ammunition will last for a day or two. The building was rather big. You can't even imagine how much i laugh. I spent 3 years of my life chasing terrorists (and roughly half of these years in gaza strip) and these ************ are doing it on their own. ROFL

I can't believe someone who's own people almost suffered genocide would take such unseemly glee in the suffering of others. In case it's escaped you and you're missing the forest because you live in the trees, it's people who suffer dire straits that do such stupid, illogical things to themselves.

And your people are somewhere between 40% and 85% and fault for their suffering. So, you're sitting there laughing watching the rewards of a situation you created. You're like the evil conniving Jew the Palestinians depict in their editorial cartoon.

I attend annual meetings for the Jewish United Fund, and I'll tell you that the specimens of humanity exhibited by many of your countrymen is far in excess of your own. No one doubts that your people live in a difficult circumstance, but whether they say it or not no one doubts that it's in large part your own doing.

And you acting like an R-tard doesn't help our impression.

[ 06-14-2007, 03:27 PM: Message edited by: Timber Loftis ]

[Black Baron]

While i have some sympathy (very little i must admit, given the fact that i know first hand what goes on there) for the average guy in gaza, i also remember that they voted for hamas, whose credo is whidely known. They simply brought it on themselves.
launching rockets at sderot after our evacuation of the settelments does not sound lioke "we want peace" it sounds like "lets throw them into the sea". Fatah is also a terrorist organization and nothing can convince me otherwise. Barguti is still their honored party member!! The man was found guilty of plotting deaths of israelis, and palestinians view him as national hero.

40-85%??? Sounds like 10% (which is 10% too many) to me. We have evacuated gaza strip. Instead of saying-lets prove that we can talk instead of launching rockets-they launch rockets. Explain please to me how we are responsible for their misery. All they had to do was to agree that israel has a right to exist, declare that they stop with terror, and they would have recieved help from the Quartet as well as entire EU. They did not even bothered giving lip service. Instead of using their money for humanitarian needs, they buy rpg. if they are so stupid let them use it at each other, because it beats the only other option every day.

I do not laugh about the suffering that the average non combatant citizen is experiencing-i laugh at the fact that 2 terroristic bands fight each other.

By the way-now it is oficcial: Abu mazen had declared that the coalition has stopped to exist.

[Ziroc]

Don't these guys have day jobs? I mean, come on. Go build a house, feed some people... Stop killing! Freaking idiots. I agree, if all they have in their hearts is violence, maybe they should wipe themselves out. HARSH, but look at the history--they have fought so long, they have forgotten what they were fighting about.

Drop some quantum-neutron bombs! (Oh, those won't be invented for another 20 years)

Just insane. Stuck in the damn stone age.

[Black Baron]

Ok, i have some new hot update:

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/871560.html

Abu mazen had created a new government with "professional ministers" instead of political ones.

Abu Mazen had also declared that Hamas is outlawed.

Hopefully Abu mazen will continue this line and then we shall have peace. (After several more wars and a a thousand or so dead. Can't make peace here wihtout sacrifices to Moloch).

[Morgeruat]

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle1942918.ece

Israel is preparing to crush Hamas at the first attack they make, it's about time.

[Morgeruat]

Lest we forget and think Abbas and Fatah are the good guys here:

Mahmoud Abbas in his own words:

* On recognizing Israel:” It is not required of Hamas, or of Fatah, or of the Popular Front to recognize Israel” (Al-Arabiya [Dubai] and PA TV, October 3, 2006).

* Fighting Israel: “We have a legitimate right to direct our guns against Israeli occupation ... Our rifles, all our rifles are aimed at The Occupation” ( Jerusalem Post, January 11, 2007; Independent Media & Review Analysis, January 12, 2007).

* On Jews: “The sons of Israel are corrupting humanity on earth” ( World Net Daily, January 11, 2007).

* On Israel: “the Zionist enemy” (Associated Press, January 4, 2005; CNN.com, January 7, 2005).

* On suicide bombers: “Allah loves the martyr” ( Wall Street Journal, January 5, 2005).

* On wanted Palestinian terrorists: “heroes fighting for freedom” ( Age [Melbourne], January 3, 2005); ” Israel calls them murderers, we call them strugglers” (Jerusalem Post, December 25, 2004).

* On Palestinian terrorist leaders Yasser Arafat, Hamas’ Ahmad Yasin and Abdel Aziz Rantisi and Palestinian Islamic Jihad’s Fathi Shikaki: “martyrs” (Palestinian Media Center , September 9, 2005)

* On Hamas: “We must unite the Hamas and Fatah blood in the struggle against Israel as we did at the beginning of the intifada. We want a political partnership with Hamas” ( Jerusalem Post, February 5, 2007).

* On Yasser Arafat: “It is our duty to implement the principles of Yasser Arafat” ( Haaretz, January 3, 2005); “We will continue in the path of the late president until we fulfill all his dreams” (Agence France-Presse, November 11, 2005); “The Palestinian leadership won’t stray from Arafat’s path” (Yediot Ahronot, November 11, 2006)

* On disarming Palestinian terrorists: a “red line” that must not be crossed (Washington Times, January 3, 2005)/LI>
* On jailed Palestinian terrorists: “our heroes.” (Israel National News, May 26, 2006).

* On the so-called ‘right of return’ of Palestinian refugees and their millions of descendants which, if implemented would end Israel as a Jewish state: “The issue of the refugees is non-negotiable” ( Jerusalem Post, January 11, 2007).

* On the Lebanese terrorist group Hizballah: A source of pride and sets an example for the “Arab resistance” (Jerusalem Post, August 6, 2006).

* Saddam Hussein: ” Saddam Hussein has entered history as a symbol of Pan-Arab nationalism” (Independent Media Review and Analysis , December 31, 2006).


Mahmoud Abbas’ acts:

* Holocaust denial: He wrote a PhD thesis and published a book denying the Holocaust.

* Terrorist group Fatah: He co-founded with arch-terrorist Yasser Arafat the terrorist group Fatah, whose Constitution to this day calls for the destruction of Israel (Article 12) and the use of terrorism against Israelis as an indispensable part of the struggle to achieve that goal (Article 19).

* Funding terrorism: as senior PLO official, he funded the Munich massacre of Israeli Olympic athletes in 1972.

* Terror & incitement to violence: He has refused to implement the signed Oslo agreements and the 2003 Roadmap peace plan which requires him to fight, arrest, extradite and jail terrorists and confiscate their weaponry and end the incitement to hatred and murder in the PA-controlled media, mosques, schools and youth camps that feeds it.

* Terrorists’ plan for more violence: In May 2006, he endorsed the so-called ‘Prisoners’ Plan’, a document produced by jailed Palestinian terrorists, that endorses continued terrorism against Israel, legitimizes the murder of Jews, does not accept Israel’s existence as a Jewish state, abrogates Palestinian obligations under the signed Oslo agreements and the 2003 Roadmap peace plan, and insists on the ‘right of return.’

* Money for suicide bombers’ families : In December 2005, he approved legislation mandating financial benefits to be paid to families of killed Palestinian terrorists.

* Mecca Agreement: In March 2007, he formed a unity government with Hamas under the Mecca Agreement that called for more violence, not peace and reconciliation with Israel.

[Morgeruat]

http://www.factsofisrael.com/blog/archives/000807.html

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