Infinite Justice

[skywalker]

I hear you. But they sound so breast-beatingly cheesy to me!

Mark

[DragonMage]

Thank you for this post. While I don't agree with all of it, it gives one much to think on and about. Pardon whilst I chew on this a while (and do some research).

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[Prime2U]

This does raise a lot of points that are accurate. It also contains some innaccuracies as well. For one, the pilots of theose planes DID leave farewell messages/ suicide notes. It was the enforcers on each plane who didn't. The FBI is pretty sure that only the pilots knew they would be crashing into buildings and the rest of the hijackers were left in the dark about that. As of this date, there are other things no longer accurate in this article besides that that may have been true when this was written but are no longer. I don't have time to search out and go over those now though.

Prime

Excellent, worth reading again!!!

[250]

very good

[DonkeyWan]

Thanks for the positives guy, as to the names of the operations, 'Operation Provide hope' is a damn sight better for troop morale than 'Operation Mine Stomp' or 'Operation Provide ground fodder'

[Silver Cheetah]

This is an absolutely stunning article - thoughtful and insightful. Thanks for posting it, DonkeyWan!! I read the Guardian regularly, but I must have missed that particular issue.

The point he makes about Bhopal is particularly well taken from this quarter. Yeah, who gives a flying ■■■■ about Bhopal? They were only Indians, after all.......

Hands up all those who understand the Bhopal reference without going and looking it up on the web. Any takers??

For anyone who doesn't know what happened, here's some gen...

'On December 3, 1984, Union Carbide's pesticide-manufacturing plant
in Bhopal, India leaked 42 tons of the deadly gas methyl isocyanate
into a sleeping, impoverished community -- killing more than 2,500
people in the first night of the disaster and injuring up to 200,000
others.

According to some estimates, more than 16,000 people have died since
that time as a result of medical problems related to their
exposures; 50,000 people are still suffering significant long term
health impacts and over 500,000 people have filed injury claims with
the Bhopal Compensation Courts.

There have been no criminal verdicts issued in the Bhopal case,
however, Union Carbide settled with the Indian government for US$470
million in 1989. To date, Bhopal survivors or their families have
received US$3,300 for loss of life and US$800 for permanent
disability.

Union Carbide has since abandoned its Bhopal plant which originally
produced pesticides for use in cotton production and has refused to
clean up the extensive pollution of water and soil it left behind.

"We can never forget Bhopal" stated Sarojeni V. Rengam of PAN Asia
and the Pacific at the launch of this campaign. "Bhopal is a tragedy
that need not have happened. PAN International is launching "No
Pesticides Day" in memory of those who suffered at Bhopal," she
continued.

As the years pass, the harms attributable to the Bhopal disaster
grow worse as new health problems are discovered. In 1995 a
neighborhood clinic -- the Bhopal People's Health and Documentation
Centre, Sambhavna -- was set up to help people still suffering the
effects of the disaster. "The clinic was started using voluntary
contributions from thousands of people around the world who are
standing up against unacceptable business practices and corporate
irresponsibility which caused such devastation," explained Barbara
Dinham of The Pesticides Trust, UK.

Bhopal, however, is only one example of the dangers of toxic
pesticides. The manufacture, distribution, and use of chemical
pesticides have for years had devastating impacts on people and the
environment. Every year approximately three million people are
poisoned around the world and 200,000 die from pesticide use. Beyond
these reported acute cases of pesticide poisoning, even more
worrying are the chronic long term effects such as cancer and
reproductive disorders.

While most pesticide-related deaths occur in the South, pesticides
also pose serious problems in industrialized countries. In both rich
and poor countries, the effects of pesticide poisoning are suffered
disproportionately by poor and disadvantaged people.

Around the world, toxic pesticides can be found in even the most
remote village. In the South, availability of highly toxic
pesticides, lack of information and knowledge of their hazards,
aggressive marketing by industry as well as poverty, illiteracy, and
lack of health facilities in rural areas ensure that pesticides are
a major cause of poisoning in farming communities.



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[Ryanamur]

Originally posted by Silver Cheetah: This is an absolutely stunning article - thoughtful and insightful. Thanks for posting it, DonkeyWan!! I read the Guardian regularly, but I must have missed that particular issue. The point he makes about Bhopal is particularly well taken from this quarter. Yeah, who gives a flying ■■■■ about Bhopal? They were only Indians, after all.......

I remember that (even if I was just 10), that was horrific. Thank God we don't have to deal with this in America.

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I'm the Wanderer without a clan... I bring justice without favorism. Though you may not agree with it, my judgement is final... and inconsequential

[Silver Cheetah]

Originally posted by Ryanamur: I remember that (even if I was just 10), that was horrific. Thank God we don't have to deal with this in America.

10 in 1984, so you're............ 27?? Wow gosh...... Thought you were older, somehow....... First Neb, (who turns out to be just 16, amazing!!) and now you!! All these very mature people. Way cool!!



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Most Ecstatic and Exotic Mistress of the Illuminati

[Ryanamur]

Originally posted by Silver Cheetah: 10 in 1984, so you're............ 27?? Wow gosh...... Thought you were older, somehow....... First Neb, (who turns out to be just 16, amazing!!) and now you!! All these very mature people. Way cool!!

Ha, you've solve the Y in my equation (see the general discussion board). Yes, I'm 27 (just turned 27). I'll take it as a great compliment that you thought I would be older than that.

Neb is truly an amazing individual for 16

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