Class change to fairy ninja? - Page 2

Ziggurat · 02-02-2004, 12:58 AM

Training a new skill: Another possible aid is intelligence. Specifically, using items such as the Brilliant Helm to boost it. I think this strategy helps the character learn faster. I gave it to my Ninja who had no skill in staff/wand. I had trained her instead with mace/flail which will mostly be wasted when she gets CoC. She went up to 35 or so in skill in two levels (10-12) using a secondary-weapon wand (Wand of Static). Anyone else do this? I also agree the two-swords does not work too well for Sams except for early sword training.

Marmot · 02-02-2004, 05:09 AM

Hmm, INT to improve skill increase ... has anyone else made that experience, too? I never noticed a difference in that field, between my INT 25 fighter and my INT 100 mage.

And what´s better for training purpose (or is there any difference at all?): Seven weak spells or one with maximum strenght?

ferro287 · 02-02-2004, 06:55 AM

Three spells at Powerlevel 1 train about as good as one on PL7 (rough number after a couple of tests).

Edit: concerning Learning, I noticed in my last party that my mage learned mythology quicker than my Gadgeteer, even though senses are primary for that skill. I don't understand it, unless learning is indeed first of all checked against int (maybe only academic skills?).

[ 02-02-2004, 06:57 AM: Message edited by: ferro287 ]

Pyrates · 02-02-2004, 07:39 AM

Marmot, I have the converse experience. I have a party with 2 pretty similar faerie bishops, and it's alwazy the one with the brilliant helm (gives INT+20) thats learning faster. The effect shows up only after some time, but its definitely noticable (my party is around level 30, so I need to train really much to get just 1 point of skill through training).

Cheers
Philipp

ferro287 · 02-02-2004, 08:48 AM

Pyrates, you made me curious. Who in your party has the second Brilliant helm then? Or what headgear do you use for Bishop 2?

Scatter · 02-02-2004, 11:02 AM

There are some skills with INT as a controlling attribute, which means higher INT learns that skill faster. Skills with other controlling attributes are not learned faster if your INT is higher.

Pyrates · 02-02-2004, 12:00 PM

Ferro, there is a second brilliant helm? Set location? Mind to tell me... where?

I'm not so sure about the 2nd bishop, I guess it's the helm of serenity? I'll look it up later and I'll tell you about it [img]smile.gif[/img]

Cheers
Philipp

ferro287 · 02-02-2004, 02:53 PM

One in lower (edit

Bluff, the other in Ferros private armoury, iirc. At least I always have two

Edit: @Scatter I always thought so too, but i can't explain why a mage with low senses and high int will do better in Myth than a gadg with low int and high senses (senses being primary skill). after all, everyone has the same chance for identifying monsters, or?

[ 02-02-2004, 02:55 PM: Message edited by: ferro287 ]

02-02-2004, 12:58 AM	#11
Ziggurat Symbol of Cyric Join Date: November 4, 2001 Location: Baltimore, Md Age: 71 Posts: 1,106	Training a new skill: Another possible aid is intelligence. Specifically, using items such as the Brilliant Helm to boost it. I think this strategy helps the character learn faster. I gave it to my Ninja who had no skill in staff/wand. I had trained her instead with mace/flail which will mostly be wasted when she gets CoC. She went up to 35 or so in skill in two levels (10-12) using a secondary-weapon wand (Wand of Static). Anyone else do this? I also agree the two-swords does not work too well for Sams except for early sword training. __________________ How are you today, Citizen?

02-02-2004, 07:39 AM	#14
Pyrates Drow Warrior Join Date: February 3, 2002 Location: Muenster Age: 46 Posts: 287	Marmot, I have the converse experience. I have a party with 2 pretty similar faerie bishops, and it's alwazy the one with the brilliant helm (gives INT+20) thats learning faster. The effect shows up only after some time, but its definitely noticable (my party is around level 30, so I need to train really much to get just 1 point of skill through training). Cheers Philipp __________________ \" ... and the Vogon will do things to you that you wish you\'d never been born, or, if you\'re a clearer minded thinker, that the Vogon had never been born.\"

02-02-2004, 12:00 PM	#17
Pyrates Drow Warrior Join Date: February 3, 2002 Location: Muenster Age: 46 Posts: 287	Ferro, there is a second brilliant helm? Set location? Mind to tell me... where? I'm not so sure about the 2nd bishop, I guess it's the helm of serenity? I'll look it up later and I'll tell you about it [img]smile.gif[/img] Cheers Philipp __________________ \" ... and the Vogon will do things to you that you wish you\'d never been born, or, if you\'re a clearer minded thinker, that the Vogon had never been born.\"

02-02-2004, 02:53 PM	#18
ferro287 Manshoon Join Date: October 27, 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 177	One in lower (editBluff, the other in Ferros private armoury, iirc. At least I always have two Edit: @Scatter I always thought so too, but i can't explain why a mage with low senses and high int will do better in Myth than a gadg with low int and high senses (senses being primary skill). after all, everyone has the same chance for identifying monsters, or? [ 02-02-2004, 02:55 PM: Message edited by: ferro287 ]

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02-02-2004, 05:09 AM	#12
Marmot Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: January 6, 2004 Location: Köln Age: 49 Posts: 19	Hmm, INT to improve skill increase ... has anyone else made that experience, too? I never noticed a difference in that field, between my INT 25 fighter and my INT 100 mage. And what´s better for training purpose (or is there any difference at all?): Seven weak spells or one with maximum strenght?

02-02-2004, 06:55 AM	#13
ferro287 Manshoon Join Date: October 27, 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 177	Three spells at Powerlevel 1 train about as good as one on PL7 (rough number after a couple of tests). Edit: concerning Learning, I noticed in my last party that my mage learned mythology quicker than my Gadgeteer, even though senses are primary for that skill. I don't understand it, unless learning is indeed first of all checked against int (maybe only academic skills?). [ 02-02-2004, 06:57 AM: Message edited by: ferro287 ]

02-02-2004, 08:48 AM	#15
ferro287 Manshoon Join Date: October 27, 2003 Location: Germany Posts: 177	Pyrates, you made me curious. Who in your party has the second Brilliant helm then? Or what headgear do you use for Bishop 2?

02-02-2004, 11:02 AM	#16
Scatter Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2003 Location: Portland Age: 66 Posts: 1,336	There are some skills with INT as a controlling attribute, which means higher INT learns that skill faster. Skills with other controlling attributes are not learned faster if your INT is higher.

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