Insane sorcerer - Page 2

Barb · 12-02-2001, 02:49 PM

Why do sorcerers need wisdom#? i thought their prime requisite was Intelligence.

(these may be dumb questions, but I have never played a magick user before)

Dundee Slaytern · 12-02-2001, 03:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Barb:
Why do sorcerers need wisdom#? i thought their prime requisite was Intelligence.
(these may be dumb questions, but I have never played a magick user before)

Not to sound snide, but if you have never played a magic user before, why the sudden jump to soloing as a Sorcerer? You can try partying with a Sorcerer first, to get an idea on how to use spells to defeat your enemies. Spell tactics are very different from Physical tactics. Anyway, WIS is needed in order to improve your choices with Limited Wish and Wish.

Barb · 12-03-2001, 10:52 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:

Not to sound snide, but if you have never played a magic user before, why the sudden jump to soloing as a Sorcerer? You can try partying with a Sorcerer first, to get an idea on how to use spells to defeat your enemies. Spell tactics are very different from Physical tactics. Anyway, WIS is needed in order to improve your choices with Limited Wish and Wish.

Okay, thanks. I have played 2 chapters with a sorcerer in my party before, I kind of got annoyed when I used spells which killed my party members.

Morgan_Corbesant · 12-03-2001, 11:17 AM

wisdom is good for a mage when he casts limited wish, and wish spells, nothing more. supposedly, if you solo, you CANT beat the TOB boss without the wish spell, but i have yet to beat TOB, let alone solo it.

Dundee Slaytern · 12-03-2001, 11:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Morgan_Corbesant:
supposedly, if you solo, you CANT beat the TOB boss without the wish spell, but i have yet to beat TOB, let alone solo it.

You can beat the ToB boss with a solo Sorcerer, without using Wish, but it sure ain't gonna be easy, in fact, it will be periliously close to impossible.

Lucre · 12-03-2001, 12:12 PM

Talking of the wish spell, isn't it funny when you go into battle and cast wish.
"You work out a long contract carefully worded" or something, i find that kind of hard to beleive in a battle unless the genie slightly shifts you between planes so they can't hurt you.

Dundee Slaytern · 12-03-2001, 12:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Lucre:
Talking of the wish spell, isn't it funny when you go into battle and cast wish.
"You work out a long contract carefully worded" or something, i find that kind of hard to beleive in a battle unless the genie slightly shifts you between planes so they can't hurt you.

Yeah... I always had to suspend my disbelief for that one. It's not as though your Sorcerer can tell the Demon, "Yo, timeout", and starts negotiating with the Genie before resuming to kick the Demon's butt.

Kaleban · 12-03-2001, 01:23 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:

Yeah... I always had to suspend my disbelief for that one. It's not as though your Sorcerer can tell the Demon, "Yo, timeout", and starts negotiating with the Genie before resuming to kick the Demon's butt.

Add in "I am running out of air, gotta get pumped" then proceed to pump up your Reeboks, and you too can feel like you're in the middle of a Mel Brooks' film!

Do you know... Praying Mantisss?
You're lookin' at 'em!

WWWWOOOOOOOOHHHHHAAAAAAAA!!

Rob · 12-04-2001, 05:26 AM

I think one thing that would have been nice for limited wish is if Minsc or one of the other characters would try and put in their say the first time you try. I wanna know what Minsc would say Boo wants. Like the time he talked about evil and how because of evil Boo never has clean wood shavings. I could see him go up to genie. "BOO DEMANDS CLEAN WOOD SHAVINGS IN THE NAME OF GOODNESS!!!" Or something to that effect. I also think Aerie should be able to get her wings back, even if there was some kind of longly drawn out quest of some kind to get a genie lamp and wish them for her. What I would have included if I could have had my 2 cents on the topic of wishes is that each character can be 'given' something by limited wish. Boo gets clean wood shavings, Minsc a 'bigger sword', Aerie her wings, Jaheria a nice peice of tape for which to shut her mouth (I know that was rude hehe), Anomen would probably want justice for his sister's death. You could still make all the things 'limited' but still something they would like. You don't have to bring back Anomen's sister to find out who did it. Giving Aerie her wings back could bring about the problem of her not being strong enough to use them, so you have to give her one of the belts of strength or something. Many options for many possibilities. Maybe even be selfish and keep the wood shavings for your own hamster and tell Minsc that Boo will just have to wait. ~wink~

Barb · 12-05-2001, 03:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Rob:
Maybe even be selfish and keep the wood shavings for your own hamster and tell Minsc that Boo will just have to wait. ~wink~

Umm, It's an interesting concept!

I know I said something about giving Aerie a quest to get her wings back when the lady from biowareposted on IW a couple of months back.

12-02-2001, 02:49 PM	#11
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12-02-2001, 03:00 PM	#12
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	quote: Originally posted by Barb: Why do sorcerers need wisdom#? i thought their prime requisite was Intelligence. (these may be dumb questions, but I have never played a magick user before) Not to sound snide, but if you have never played a magic user before, why the sudden jump to soloing as a Sorcerer? You can try partying with a Sorcerer first, to get an idea on how to use spells to defeat your enemies. Spell tactics are very different from Physical tactics. Anyway, WIS is needed in order to improve your choices with Limited Wish and Wish.

12-03-2001, 10:52 AM	#13
Barb Symbol of Cyric Join Date: July 16, 2001 Location: England, UK Age: 51 Posts: 1,150	quote: Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: Not to sound snide, but if you have never played a magic user before, why the sudden jump to soloing as a Sorcerer? You can try partying with a Sorcerer first, to get an idea on how to use spells to defeat your enemies. Spell tactics are very different from Physical tactics. Anyway, WIS is needed in order to improve your choices with Limited Wish and Wish. Okay, thanks. I have played 2 chapters with a sorcerer in my party before, I kind of got annoyed when I used spells which killed my party members. __________________ [url]\"http://www.xsorbit.com/users2/barb/index.cgi\" target=\"_blank\"></a> <br /><br />[url]\"http://www.xsorbit.com/users2/barb/index.cgi\" target=\"_blank\"><b>The Master of Beasts</b></a>

12-03-2001, 11:17 AM	#14
Morgan_Corbesant Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 19, 2001 Location: Portland, Oregon Age: 47 Posts: 1,224	wisdom is good for a mage when he casts limited wish, and wish spells, nothing more. supposedly, if you solo, you CANT beat the TOB boss without the wish spell, but i have yet to beat TOB, let alone solo it. __________________ Morgan Corbesant, Elven BladeSinger, Captain of the army of the Seldarine<br /><br /> [img]\"http://www.rleeermey.com/images/linkbanners/usmcredwhiteblue.gif\" alt=\" - \" /><br />Protector of Elves<br />Slayer of Orcs<br /><br />ALL YOUR BASE, ARE BELONG TO US!!!<br />I DON\'T FIGHT FOR HONOR, I FIGHT TO WIN!<br />\"One who is a samurai must before all things keep constantly in mind, by day and by night...the fact that he has to die\". <br />-Daidoji Yuzan-<br />16th Century

12-03-2001, 11:33 AM	#15
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	quote: Originally posted by Morgan_Corbesant: supposedly, if you solo, you CANT beat the TOB boss without the wish spell, but i have yet to beat TOB, let alone solo it. You can beat the ToB boss with a solo Sorcerer, without using Wish, but it sure ain't gonna be easy, in fact, it will be periliously close to impossible.

12-03-2001, 12:12 PM	#16
Lucre Elminster Join Date: October 20, 2001 Location: England Posts: 413	Talking of the wish spell, isn't it funny when you go into battle and cast wish. "You work out a long contract carefully worded" or something, i find that kind of hard to beleive in a battle unless the genie slightly shifts you between planes so they can't hurt you.

12-03-2001, 12:19 PM	#17
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	quote: Originally posted by Lucre: Talking of the wish spell, isn't it funny when you go into battle and cast wish. "You work out a long contract carefully worded" or something, i find that kind of hard to beleive in a battle unless the genie slightly shifts you between planes so they can't hurt you. Yeah... I always had to suspend my disbelief for that one. It's not as though your Sorcerer can tell the Demon, "Yo, timeout", and starts negotiating with the Genie before resuming to kick the Demon's butt.

12-03-2001, 01:23 PM	#18
Kaleban Manshoon Join Date: October 12, 2001 Location: Bloomington, MN, USA Posts: 244	quote: Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern: Yeah... I always had to suspend my disbelief for that one. It's not as though your Sorcerer can tell the Demon, "Yo, timeout", and starts negotiating with the Genie before resuming to kick the Demon's butt. Add in "I am running out of air, gotta get pumped" then proceed to pump up your Reeboks, and you too can feel like you're in the middle of a Mel Brooks' film! Do you know... Praying Mantisss? You're lookin' at 'em! WWWWOOOOOOOOHHHHHAAAAAAAA!! __________________ He Will Win<BR>Whose Army Is Animated<BR>By The Same Spirit<BR>Throughout Its Ranks<P>Sun Tzu - The Art of War

12-04-2001, 05:26 AM	#19
Rob Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: November 30, 2001 Location: Boca Raton, Florida Posts: 13	I think one thing that would have been nice for limited wish is if Minsc or one of the other characters would try and put in their say the first time you try. I wanna know what Minsc would say Boo wants. Like the time he talked about evil and how because of evil Boo never has clean wood shavings. I could see him go up to genie. "BOO DEMANDS CLEAN WOOD SHAVINGS IN THE NAME OF GOODNESS!!!" Or something to that effect. I also think Aerie should be able to get her wings back, even if there was some kind of longly drawn out quest of some kind to get a genie lamp and wish them for her. What I would have included if I could have had my 2 cents on the topic of wishes is that each character can be 'given' something by limited wish. Boo gets clean wood shavings, Minsc a 'bigger sword', Aerie her wings, Jaheria a nice peice of tape for which to shut her mouth (I know that was rude hehe), Anomen would probably want justice for his sister's death. You could still make all the things 'limited' but still something they would like. You don't have to bring back Anomen's sister to find out who did it. Giving Aerie her wings back could bring about the problem of her not being strong enough to use them, so you have to give her one of the belts of strength or something. Many options for many possibilities. Maybe even be selfish and keep the wood shavings for your own hamster and tell Minsc that Boo will just have to wait. ~wink~ __________________ I feel your pain, I know that critical hit hurt so much... what can I do to make it up to you? <br />~Critical hits him again~<br />:rambo::shooter04:

12-05-2001, 03:28 PM	#20
Barb Symbol of Cyric Join Date: July 16, 2001 Location: England, UK Age: 51 Posts: 1,150	quote: Originally posted by Rob: Maybe even be selfish and keep the wood shavings for your own hamster and tell Minsc that Boo will just have to wait. ~wink~ Umm, It's an interesting concept! I know I said something about giving Aerie a quest to get her wings back when the lady from biowareposted on IW a couple of months back. __________________ [url]\"http://www.xsorbit.com/users2/barb/index.cgi\" target=\"_blank\"></a> <br /><br />[url]\"http://www.xsorbit.com/users2/barb/index.cgi\" target=\"_blank\"><b>The Master of Beasts</b></a>

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