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Old 05-28-2003, 10:56 AM   #1
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Waking up this morning I heard charges and denials WoMD's and Al-queda links on the radio. I thought I might have woken up 6 months in the past then I heard they were talking about Iran, not Iraq. Then I relized I was just hearing the first stirrings of drums in the deep. I guess it is time to settle one more old score.
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Old 05-28-2003, 11:10 AM   #2
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you have got o be joking? now we are going to attack Iran? what is our reason this time?
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Old 05-28-2003, 11:12 AM   #3
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you have got o be joking? now we are going to attack Iran? what is our reason this time?
I'm not saying that we are. It's just the rhetoric sounds alot like what we were being fed a year ago regarding Iraq.
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Old 05-28-2003, 11:17 AM   #4
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I also heard this story yesterday on the radio (abc news again)
the discussion is speculation and the source was "unnamed officials in the administration". This could perhaps be a ploy like those used against Syria to bring Iran to the negotiation table, it may be all lies to make the administration look bad or it could be prelude to invasion of Iran.

If it is a prelude to invasion...I will be most troubled and will be VERY curious as to what the wenies in washington are thinking......watch and wait is all we can do right now.


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Old 05-28-2003, 11:20 AM   #5
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What would be the reason this time ..was the question asked....well in this case Iran has a publicly declared nuclear program. it is officially for peaceful energy production purposes..which sounds reasonable...untill you relaize that Iran has more oil than they know what to do with and is quite capable of generating all the electricity they need from conventional means....not saing its a good reason...just A reason.
 
Old 05-28-2003, 11:23 AM   #6
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Being half asleep when I was listening I did not catch the whole thing. But I do remember one person commenting on the fact that we had been in talks with Iran about they nuc program and that we (the US) broke of the talks. It's almost like Bush wants to got for a three-peat.
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Old 05-28-2003, 11:35 AM   #7
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Well looks like the UN was correct, there were no WoMD so your leaders are either greedy, or insanely parinoid. The evidence presented for going to war over WoMD was poor and the Bush regime has lost any integrity that he had in the eyes of the world.

Rumsfeld said the search for banned weapons will continue
US Defence Secretary Donald Rumsfeld has said Iraq may have destroyed its weapons of mass destruction before the US went to war against Saddam Hussein in March.
Mr Rumsfeld said the search for hidden weapons was continuing and it will "take time" to investigate hundreds of suspected sites.

The BBC's Washington correspondent Justin Webb says Mr Rumsfeld's remarks are the closest the Bush administration has yet come to an admission that it may never find any weapons of mass destruction in Iraq.

The allegation that Saddam Hussein possessed chemical, biological and nuclear weapons was the main reason why the US attacked Iraq.

The former Iraqi regime consistently insisted it had destroyed all such weapons in compliance with United Nations resolutions.

Wait they did find WoMD lying around. In there own backyard were any citizen could get there hands on it. Very Bad!

Julian Borger in Washington
Wednesday May 28, 2003
The Guardian

The good news for the Pentagon yesterday was that its investigators finally unearthed evidence of weapons of mass destruction, including 100 vials of anthrax and other dangerous bacteria. The bad news was that the stash was found, not in Iraq, but fewer than 50 miles from Washington, in the Maryland countryside.

The anthrax was a non-virulent strain, and the discoveries are apparently remnants of an abandoned germ warfare programme. They merited only a local news item in the Washington Post. But arguably lesser finds in Iraq have made front-page news, given the failure so far of US military inspection teams to find substantial evidence for the weapons that were the justification for the March invasion.

Even more embarrassing for the Pentagon, there was no documentation about the various biological agents disposed of at the US bio-defence centre at Fort Detrick in Maryland. The Iraqi government's failure to come up with paperwork proving the destruction of its biological arsenal was portrayed by the US as evidence of deception in the run-up to the war.

The US germ warfare programme at Fort Detrick was officially wound up in 1969, but the base has maintained a stock of nasty bugs to help maintain America's defences against biological attack.

The leading theory about the unsolved anthrax letter attacks in 2001 is that they were carried out by a disgruntled former Fort Detrick employee; equipment found dumped in a pond eight miles from the base has been linked to the crimes.

The clean-up at Fort Detrick has grown into the biggest army operation of its kind, unearthing more than 2,000 tonnes of hazardous waste at a cost of $25m (£15m).

The sanitation crews were shocked to find vials containing live bacteria. As well as the vaccine form of anthrax, the discarded biological agents included Brucella melitensis, which causes the virulent flu-like disease brucellosis, and klebsiella, a cause of pneumonia.

The clean-up crews, equipped with biological protection suits, also came across 50 pressurised cylinders of gases and liquids which are still being analysed, and four dissected laboratory rats in jars of formaldehyde.

"You never know what's there until you start digging," Colonel John Ball, the Fort Detrick garrison commander told the Post. "We've generally ruled out finding a nuclear weapon."

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