Sniper is Going to Represent Himself

Ladyzekke · 10-20-2003, 12:42 PM

http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=3...iper_Shootings

I wonder what he will say to defend himself? I can't think of much he CAN say except perhaps just point the blame at the other guy, and no jury is ever gonna buy that.

Timber Loftis · 10-20-2003, 12:56 PM

Probably argue brainwashing or duress. Stockholm syndrome sort of thing. I saw a long expose on his mum, and when she tried to separate them the last 2 times, he told her to go away because her life was at risk.

Anyway, as to him defending himself, my wife the prosecutor would say, "GREAT!!!"

Bungleau · 10-20-2003, 02:50 PM

A part of me groans at the revelation. Moussaoui representing himself has (from this outsider's perspective) wandered in circles in a hope of finding a way out, and I fear that the same thing will happen here.

Then again, perhaps he won't be able to get a retrial based on claims of attorney incompetence...

From his opening remarks, though, it sounds like the stock of J&J (makers of Tylenol), Bayer (Bayer aspirin), and Wyeth (Advil) are going to go up...

Sir Taliesin · 10-20-2003, 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Timber Loftis:
Probably argue brainwashing or duress. Stockholm syndrome sort of thing. I saw a long expose on his mum, and when she tried to separate them the last 2 times, he told her to go away because her life was at risk.

Anyway, as to him defending himself, my wife the prosecutor would say, "GREAT!!!"

TL, this is John Mohummad, not the boy. His trial hasn't come up yet. As for John's future, I think his destiny includes either a needle or some juice. I don't have a clue what the State of Virginia uses.

Arvon · 10-20-2003, 03:13 PM

Remember Lincoln's statrment... A man who represents himself in court has a fool for a client.

Of course Lincoln was always looking for a fee....

[ 10-20-2003, 03:15 PM: Message edited by: Arvon ]

Timber Loftis · 10-20-2003, 03:44 PM

Ooooopsie. [img]graemlins/doh.gif[/img] Thanks, Sir T.

khazadman · 10-21-2003, 11:44 AM

We here in the Commonwealth of Virginia use lethal injection to destroy our murderers. Which is too bad, because I miss the electric chair.

Azred · 10-22-2003, 03:02 AM

Actually, his defense could be quite simple: did anyone see him shoot anyone?
All the evidence is going to be circumstancial only; true, plenty of people are convicted on circumstancial evidence only, but the case is weaker because of that and will guarantee an appeal.

I am unclear as to his motive; at least, I haven't heard anything about it. Was he trying to prove a point? Was he distraught? Was he simply insane?

Also, why do people refer to him a the "sniper"? I think he qualifies for the even nastier label of "terrorist"; as such, a shrewd prosecutor could even stretch the charges to treason and go for a Federal death penalty.

[ 10-22-2003, 03:05 AM: Message edited by: Azred ]

Seraph · 10-22-2003, 05:57 AM

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I think he qualifies for the even nastier label of "terrorist"

Terrorists usually have some sort of goal greater than "go kill people". AFAIK This guy doesn't.

[ 10-22-2003, 05:58 AM: Message edited by: Seraph ]

Ladyzekke · 10-22-2003, 12:17 PM

Well looks like he changed his mind!

http://www.courttv.com/trials/sniper/102203_ap.html

10-20-2003, 12:42 PM	#1
Ladyzekke Ironworks Atomic Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Virginia, U.S.A. Age: 58 Posts: 9,005	http://story.news.yahoo.com/fc?cid=3...iper_Shootings I wonder what he will say to defend himself? I can't think of much he CAN say except perhaps just point the blame at the other guy, and no jury is ever gonna buy that. __________________ Reality Show Recaps

10-20-2003, 12:56 PM	#2
Timber Loftis 40th Level Warrior Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 11,916	Probably argue brainwashing or duress. Stockholm syndrome sort of thing. I saw a long expose on his mum, and when she tried to separate them the last 2 times, he told her to go away because her life was at risk. Anyway, as to him defending himself, my wife the prosecutor would say, "GREAT!!!" __________________

10-20-2003, 02:50 PM	#3
Bungleau 40th Level Warrior Join Date: October 29, 2001 Location: Western Wilds of Michigan Posts: 11,752	A part of me groans at the revelation. Moussaoui representing himself has (from this outsider's perspective) wandered in circles in a hope of finding a way out, and I fear that the same thing will happen here. Then again, perhaps he won't be able to get a retrial based on claims of attorney incompetence... From his opening remarks, though, it sounds like the stock of J&J (makers of Tylenol), Bayer (Bayer aspirin), and Wyeth (Advil) are going to go up... __________________ B Save Early, Save Often Save Before, Save After Two-Star General, Spelling Soldiers -+-+-+ Give 'em a hug one more time. It might be the last.

10-20-2003, 03:13 PM	#5
Arvon Unicorn Join Date: October 4, 2001 Location: Kingdom of the West,..P.o. Cynagus Posts: 4,212	Remember Lincoln's statrment... A man who represents himself in court has a fool for a client. Of course Lincoln was always looking for a fee.... [ 10-20-2003, 03:15 PM: Message edited by: Arvon ] __________________ 53.7% of all statistics are made up

10-20-2003, 03:44 PM	#6
Timber Loftis 40th Level Warrior Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 11,916	Ooooopsie. [img]graemlins/doh.gif[/img] Thanks, Sir T. __________________

10-21-2003, 11:44 AM	#7
khazadman User suspended until [Feb13] Join Date: December 6, 2001 Location: the south side of ol virginny Age: 64 Posts: 1,172	We here in the Commonwealth of Virginia use lethal injection to destroy our murderers. Which is too bad, because I miss the electric chair.

10-22-2003, 03:02 AM	#8
Azred Drow Priestess Join Date: March 13, 2001 Location: a hidden sanctorum high above the metroplex Age: 55 Posts: 4,037	Actually, his defense could be quite simple: did anyone see him shoot anyone? All the evidence is going to be circumstancial only; true, plenty of people are convicted on circumstancial evidence only, but the case is weaker because of that and will guarantee an appeal. I am unclear as to his motive; at least, I haven't heard anything about it. Was he trying to prove a point? Was he distraught? Was he simply insane? Also, why do people refer to him a the "sniper"? I think he qualifies for the even nastier label of "terrorist"; as such, a shrewd prosecutor could even stretch the charges to treason and go for a Federal death penalty. [ 10-22-2003, 03:05 AM: Message edited by: Azred ] __________________ Everything may be explained by a conspiracy theory. All conspiracy theories are true. No matter how thinly you slice it, it's still bologna.

10-22-2003, 12:17 PM	#10
Ladyzekke Ironworks Atomic Moderator Join Date: January 7, 2001 Location: Virginia, U.S.A. Age: 58 Posts: 9,005	Well looks like he changed his mind! http://www.courttv.com/trials/sniper/102203_ap.html __________________ Reality Show Recaps

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