Hitpoints and multi-class characters

Seraph · 12-02-2001, 06:34 PM

How does the game figure out hitpoints/level for multi-class characters?
I have a Figher/Magic-User/Cleric.

According to my math 10+4+6 = 20, 20/3 = 6.6666
Add constution bonus (18 con = +2hp/level)
Im only getting 4 or 5 hp/level with the max hitpoints/level option on.

Is the game screwing me, or am I just doing something wrong with the math.

Darkman · 12-02-2001, 07:15 PM

Multiclass characters get the normal hit points per level, divided by the number of classes you have. So just calculate your normal HP's, including Constitution bonuses (which would be +4, +0, +2 for your F/M/T), then divide by 3. You might end up with 1 or 2 HP less than normal since IWD rounds down decimal points.

You can set the difficulty to Normal (the middle setting) to ensure getting your maximum HP for each lvl up.

Seraph · 12-02-2001, 08:59 PM

Im still getting screwed then,

Fighter gets 14hp/level
Mage gets 6 hp/level
Cleric gets 10 hp/level

Im getting 4 or 5 hp a level. Every time.

I dont know how to get 4 or 5 from those numbers.

You can also get max hitpoints per level by checking the option for it in the configuration screen.

Sir Moosington · 12-03-2001, 10:28 AM

When you level up, chances are it's only in one class at a time. So you only get HP's for that class ie a max of 4 for the fighter, 2 for the mage and 3 for the cleric, if you round decimals down.

Its very rare that you will level up in all 3 classes at the same time so it feels like your being cheated, but you're not.

Micah Foehammer · 12-03-2001, 10:56 AM

You should get the following BASE hit points per level from each class:

10/3 = 3.33 rounded DOWN to 3

4/3 = 1.33 rounded DOWN to 1

8/3 = 2.66 round down to 2 - (clerics get 8 hps per level, not 6)

So that should give you 6 hit points when ALL three classes gain a level (not the 7 you should have calculated by adding 10+4+8=22/3=7.33 rounded down to 7). However, since each class will rarely level up at the same time as another (it does happen occassionally) you will likely only see a couple of hit points added each time you level up.

I seem to remember reading that the Con bonus is not calculated the way you think it is. I'm trying to check it out so stay tuned for an update. I seem to recall that the Con bonus is applied based on the FIRST class to level up to a certain level and NOT distributed across ALL three levels based on the individual con bonus.

I don't understand why you are only getting 4 or 5 hitpoints when all three classes level. Give me some specifics .... what levels has your character made and how many hitpoints does he/she have so far?

Micah Foehammer · 12-03-2001, 11:59 AM

I checked with a couple of friends on the Con bonus issue. Here's what we think ...

The Con bonus is either applied based on the FIRST class to reach a specific level OR the highest con bonus for ANY class in the multi-class character; but it is not calculated based on the average of all classes.

But we still can'[t figure out why you are only getting 4 or five hps per level UNLESS you have already gone past level 10 in all three classes.

bjornm · 12-03-2001, 01:28 PM

Just because some watery tart lobs a scimitar at you, does not make you king.

Micah Foehammer · 12-03-2001, 01:30 PM

Help.... I'm being repressed ....

Holy Knight Delita · 12-05-2001, 04:35 PM

We Could always use a wooden Badger...

Micah Foehammer · 12-06-2001, 10:37 AM

He says he already has one!

12-02-2001, 07:15 PM	#2
Darkman Avatar Join Date: July 11, 2001 Location: Austin, Texas Age: 44 Posts: 525	Multiclass characters get the normal hit points per level, divided by the number of classes you have. So just calculate your normal HP's, including Constitution bonuses (which would be +4, +0, +2 for your F/M/T), then divide by 3. You might end up with 1 or 2 HP less than normal since IWD rounds down decimal points. You can set the difficulty to Normal (the middle setting) to ensure getting your maximum HP for each lvl up. __________________ There more of it there is,<br />The less you see.

12-03-2001, 10:28 AM	#4
Sir Moosington Dungeon Master Join Date: August 28, 2001 Location: Milton Keynes, UK Posts: 82	When you level up, chances are it's only in one class at a time. So you only get HP's for that class ie a max of 4 for the fighter, 2 for the mage and 3 for the cleric, if you round decimals down. Its very rare that you will level up in all 3 classes at the same time so it feels like your being cheated, but you're not. __________________ Listen, strange ladies lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government. Supreme executive power comes from a mandate from the masses, not some farcical aquatic ceremony.

12-03-2001, 10:56 AM	#5
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	You should get the following BASE hit points per level from each class: 10/3 = 3.33 rounded DOWN to 3 4/3 = 1.33 rounded DOWN to 1 8/3 = 2.66 round down to 2 - (clerics get 8 hps per level, not 6) So that should give you 6 hit points when ALL three classes gain a level (not the 7 you should have calculated by adding 10+4+8=22/3=7.33 rounded down to 7). However, since each class will rarely level up at the same time as another (it does happen occassionally) you will likely only see a couple of hit points added each time you level up. I seem to remember reading that the Con bonus is not calculated the way you think it is. I'm trying to check it out so stay tuned for an update. I seem to recall that the Con bonus is applied based on the FIRST class to level up to a certain level and NOT distributed across ALL three levels based on the individual con bonus. I don't understand why you are only getting 4 or 5 hitpoints when all three classes level. Give me some specifics .... what levels has your character made and how many hitpoints does he/she have so far? __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

12-03-2001, 11:59 AM	#6
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	I checked with a couple of friends on the Con bonus issue. Here's what we think ... The Con bonus is either applied based on the FIRST class to reach a specific level OR the highest con bonus for ANY class in the multi-class character; but it is not calculated based on the average of all classes. But we still can'[t figure out why you are only getting 4 or five hps per level UNLESS you have already gone past level 10 in all three classes. __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

12-03-2001, 01:30 PM	#8
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	Help.... I'm being repressed .... __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

12-02-2001, 06:34 PM	#1
Seraph Quintesson Join Date: September 12, 2001 Location: Ewing, NJ Age: 43 Posts: 1,079	How does the game figure out hitpoints/level for multi-class characters? I have a Figher/Magic-User/Cleric. According to my math 10+4+6 = 20, 20/3 = 6.6666 Add constution bonus (18 con = +2hp/level) Im only getting 4 or 5 hp/level with the max hitpoints/level option on. Is the game screwing me, or am I just doing something wrong with the math.

12-02-2001, 08:59 PM	#3
Seraph Quintesson Join Date: September 12, 2001 Location: Ewing, NJ Age: 43 Posts: 1,079	Im still getting screwed then, Fighter gets 14hp/level Mage gets 6 hp/level Cleric gets 10 hp/level Im getting 4 or 5 hp a level. Every time. I dont know how to get 4 or 5 from those numbers. You can also get max hitpoints per level by checking the option for it in the configuration screen.

12-03-2001, 01:28 PM	#7
bjornm Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: November 5, 2001 Location: Sacramento, California, USA Posts: 22	Just because some watery tart lobs a scimitar at you, does not make you king.

12-05-2001, 04:35 PM	#9
Holy Knight Delita Manshoon Join Date: December 4, 2001 Location: Michigan, United States Age: 38 Posts: 233	We Could always use a wooden Badger... __________________ \"Me and you are caught up in the same flow... I\'m just swimming against it\" -Delita Hyral-<br />\"All mortal men are destined to die, but death cannot kill their names.\" -Icelandic Proverb-

12-06-2001, 10:37 AM	#10
Micah Foehammer Ma'at - Goddess of Truth & Justice Join Date: November 15, 2001 Location: Asheville, NC Posts: 3,253	He says he already has one! __________________ “Every tavern’s an opportunity, I say.”

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