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Old 11-04-2005, 07:11 PM   #21
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Starter armor can not be sold or salvaged. That's what the main mistake was. At first, when I reached seared Ascalon, I saw the Rune trader, thought "OMG, free level of blood magic!!1!" and applied the rune. hen I pressed ctrl... and realised there's a whole lot better armor not 4 feet away... Was angry at self. And was forced to wear starter until Nolani or somewhere.
As for BS, I need 3 more. So far, I bought 2 for 400 each. And I don't need it for the armor, I want the most beautiful shield I've ever seen [img]tongue.gif[/img] (the max +45 -2 stance one, yes).
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Old 11-04-2005, 07:22 PM   #22
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Yes, that's my problem. Ah well, Minor Vigor still gives +30, and it's not worth the money to try and get that extra 20 HP.

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Assassin - you sound like an experienced player... we should definately try and organise to be on at the same time. Lotsa fun!
Well, schoolwork has been heavy this past month or so, but it should lighten up relatively soon. The main problem is the time zones; I live in GMT-5h00. You live in GMT+10h00. See the problem? [img]tongue.gif[/img] By the time you start playing during the nighttime, it's around midnight for me most likely. Maybe during the vacation, if you guys play during the day, I can join (it'll be during the evening).

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As for BS, I need 3 more. So far, I bought 2 for 400 each. And I don't need it for the armor, I want the most beautiful shield I've ever seen (the max +45 -2 stance one, yes).
You should've gotten it before the SF update. [img]tongue.gif[/img] There was a way easier collector that had it before...
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Old 11-05-2005, 01:19 AM   #23
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Well today I got the PERFECT Sheild for my W/M farmer. Malinons Sheild 16 Armour +45 Health (enchanted) -2damage received(enchanted)

I also got a Green necro staff for my necro.

Hope to see you all online!
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Old 11-05-2005, 05:21 PM   #24
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For my Necro, should Ď use the wand/cesta combo, or the bone staff? I'll probably lose something like 20% fast recharge, but get to slap on some mods for the staff...
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Old 11-05-2005, 10:34 PM   #25
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There are collectors staffs in the desert that give 20% fast cast 20% fast recharge with 10+ energy.

Check this page for more info.


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Old 11-05-2005, 10:53 PM   #26
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Wicked Staff Energy +10
Dark damage: 11-22 9 Curses
Improves Casting speed using Curses skills (Chance: 20%)
Improves skill recharge using Curses skills (Chance: 20%)

Vs

Truncheon
Dark damage: 11-22 9 Curses
Improves skill recharge using Curses skills (Chance: 20%)

+

Idol
Energy +12 9 Curses
Improves Casting speed using Curses skills (Chance: 20%)
Improves skill recharge using Curses skills (Chance: 20%)

What I mean by losing 20% fast recharge is that the idol and truncheon combo gives 36.25% fast recharge and 20% fast cast, while the staff alone only gives 20/20.
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Old 11-06-2005, 09:35 AM   #27
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Originally posted by Assassin:
Wicked Staff Energy +10
Dark damage: 11-22 9 Curses
Improves Casting speed using Curses skills (Chance: 20%)
Improves skill recharge using Curses skills (Chance: 20%)

Vs

Truncheon
Dark damage: 11-22 9 Curses
Improves skill recharge using Curses skills (Chance: 20%)

+

Idol
Energy +12 9 Curses
Improves Casting speed using Curses skills (Chance: 20%)
Improves skill recharge using Curses skills (Chance: 20%)

What I mean by losing 20% fast recharge is that the idol and truncheon combo gives 36.25% fast recharge and 20% fast cast, while the staff alone only gives 20/20.
Dude, I think you've answered your own question there. Obviously, as the situation stands now, you'd be better off with the two one-handed items. This would change if you came across a better staff.

See, the thing is, staves can be upgraded, wands and idols/storm artifacts/grim cesta's/etc cannot be. When you come across a staff that has three alterations to it (for instance any gold staff... get TDC to show you his Rago's flame staff. He's a prick, he won't give it to me ) I would suggest keeping it and making alterations to it that you personally think trumps your wand/idol combo.

For the moment, use the combo and sell the staff.

Sorry if that was a bit rambly, but... meh. I'm not really in a coherent mood
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Old 11-06-2005, 09:40 AM   #28
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Oh, I forgot to say that I'm not entirely sure if the two skill recharges would stack. I'd say they wouldn't, as I'm more pessismistic than optimistic, but again, not sure. Can anyone else confirm? Until then I'd say don't expect the rate of skill recharge to be higher than 20%..

Finally, the two energy is really the only difference between the two of them. So, depending on your aesthetic tastes, you may want to forgo the +2 energy in order to make your character ... er... sexier? Depending on your tastes, of course. Lol. Bah, I'm sure you get what I mean.
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Old 11-06-2005, 01:53 PM   #29
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Come, marvel at the sheer perfection of the weapon I possess!
Insightful Cruel Staff of Defense
Damage 11-22 req 9 Blood Magic
Improves Casting speed using Blood Magic skills (Chance: 20%)
Improves skill recharge using Blood Magic skills (Chance: 20%)
Energy +5
Armor +5
Customized for Bozos of Bones.
Ain't that a beauty?
As for the stacking, it doesn't add up, it is calculated one after the other. With two 20% recharge items, you have 36% chance of improved recharge, which is 32% of only one activating, an 4% of both of them activating. And they are cumulative, according to a few of my guildmates.
As for the Staff vs weapon/focus combo, I'd always opt for staff. Finding a perfect staff to further modify is much easier than finding a really perfect weapon and focus. And in the end, the staff has better energy(unless you count the Nolani +5e cesta/truncheon/whatever it is). And the +15e/-1er items are not worth it. Sure, you enter combat with more energy tha an elementalist, but once you drain, that's it. Unless you're a necro with high(10+) Soul Reaping, then it's more manageable.
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Old 11-06-2005, 03:42 PM   #30
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Bozos - I agree with you on the staff matter... but from the two weapon combinations that Assassin gave do you not agree that the wand and idol combo wins because of the +2 energy?

His staff is not one you would want to waste good customisations on; afaik you cannot "add" customisations to an item, just replace existing ones.

Edit: Oh yeah, kickass staff [img]redface.gif[/img] )

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