Zarqawi to target female soldiers

[Illumina Drathiran'ar]

Originally posted by MagiK: quote: Originally posted by Illumina Drathiran'ar: The support of the public wasn't terribly important a year or two ago... But right now it's critical. And a grisly photo of a woman being mutilated might cost Bush the election.

Try getting on the right side of the facts. INDEPENDANT and BI-PARTISAN investigation showed that Bush would have won no matter how many recounts Gore would have asked for. ACCORDING TO THE LAW. Now if you want to do away with the Electoral College system then there will be other things that need to be addressed. So anyway...you have to comeup with a better excuse...please. Public Opinion DOES matter. Admit defeat.
[/QUOTE]Excuse me, but I wasn't referring to the election. I would have said "four years" and not "a year or two ago." So before accusing me of making weak excuses, get *your* facts straight.

[ 07-03-2004, 10:29 PM: Message edited by: Illumina Drathiran'ar ]

Nice duck and dodge there but your assertion has been proven false no matter wich event you refered to. Admit defeat. Public Opinion Makes a difference in the US and just about everywhere.

Admit Defeat.

[Illumina Drathiran'ar]

How hostile. I think I'll back off for a while. Claim that equates to admitting defeat if that's what makes you happy.

[Felix The Assassin]

Originally posted by promethius9594: Ah, Spam. MMM! okay, back to useful words... public opinion cost germany WWI, it caused russia to revolt, it cause the communist revolution in china to succeed. public opionion caused the south to cecede from the north in the civil war, it caused america to enter WWII, where before it had stopped america from entering WWII. public opinion sent us to war against mexico after the alamo, and it brought us home from war in vietnam. the support of the public is essential, even masters as far back as sun tzu knew this, thousands of years before Christ.

In another form it's called Democracy. The will of the people. Yada, Yada.
The new regime is willing to allow the insurgents amnesty if they will stop. Ah, Liberalism at it's finest!

[promethius9594]

The new regime is willing to allow the insurgents amnesty if they will stop. Ah, Liberalism at it's finest!

if it stops the terrorism, i dont care. they could coat every citizen in peanut butter and put bananas on top of them for all i care, if it would reduce the wrongful victims of terrorism.

[The Hierophant]

Originally posted by promethius9594: if it stops the terrorism, i dont care. they could coat every citizen in peanut butter and put bananas on top of them for all i care, if it would reduce the wrongful victims of terrorism.

Appeasement then? Peace in our time?

[promethius9594]

Appeasement then? Peace in our time?

no, because appeasement won't stop terrorism, it will only bank it to become worse in the future. there is a big difference between "We'll give in to your demands if you stop" and "if you stop we won't kill you right away."

[The Hierophant]

Ok. Thanks for clarifying.

[Davros]

Originally posted by MagiK: Nice duck and dodge there but your assertion has been proven false no matter wich event you refered to. Admit defeat. Public Opinion Makes a difference in the US and just about everywhere. Admit Defeat.

Davros remembers a woderful gun debate (probably in your absence Ray), where it was proposed that government nowadays is by public opinion and that it is public opnion that is all important. The point of the argument being that the 2nd constitution rights which purport to arm the populace such that they have the potential for populist overthrow of a corrupt government become outdated and defunct when the power of public opinion is so firmly vested in the people and they have thepower to choose administrations. At that time, I remember the "rightists" arguing that public opinion was unimportant and something that it was easy for a rogue administration to ride roughshod over.

I just wanted you to know that I support your argument that public opinion makes a huge difference [img]smile.gif[/img] .

[Donut]

Originally posted by johnny: Has terror ever worked ? It's a desperate method to begin with, and as far as i know, it never got the terrorists the result they seek.

Palestine?
Kenya?
Aden?
Malaysia?
South Africa?
Northern Ireland?

Now can you give me a list of places where terrorism was totally defeated?