Morrowind/mw: Caius Cosadus threw me out of the Blades. Now what do i do ?

[Kakero]

hmmm..and I thought this game is open ended. looks like the game maker lied. there shouldn't be any consequences of doing something in an open ended game.

[vesselle]

kakero!

hmmm.
interesting.
yknow, i don't think consequences preclude an open-ended game.
in fact, i think its necessary to have consequences. with consequences comes thought, which govern how you respond immediately and react the next time. in fact, consequences just might ensure that a game is open-ended, because of the various ways to respond, putting you onto different paths that weren't open before.

just a thought!

and reggie!

good point about the invincibility. i DO so get bored if i feel like everything's just too safe.
nice to meet someone else who feels the same way!



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[Lord Killjoy]

umm what is with the names in this game. I have to look at them 5 times before I can go door to door looking for the right house I walk up too a door and look at the name and go I have no clue what the hell that name was. J where is it ROVARNEEHSKLFD's house in balmora. Great. Try the door.... oh this is ROVARNEEZZHSKFD's house. AAAAAAAAHHHHHGGGGGHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

And I this is the only flaw I have seen in this wonderful game LOL.

Oh well guess I'll deal

[Reggie]

Well why not check the map ?

Did you know if you left click with yer mouse on the map and hold it down that you can then drag the map around to see all previously discovered grounds [img]smile.gif[/img] ?

Needs to get used to but its very easy to find back that house you visited before.

About the robe vesselle..yeah i put it off for now, didnt throw it away. Now the game is much more interresting again.
Also i found 2 more robes which are great. Well found hihihi duh.. actually i killed this telvaani guy i came across in this weird looking place in ummm whats the damn name again of that town...
Ah yes Gnisis is the town i think, am there for a dutie from a mage guild.

Great robes he drops,2 of them... both have an elemental resist and both have lots of spell absorbtion on them for 30 secs.

Not tried that spell absorbtion stuff still though. Im now lvl 29 i think with reputation of 9 [img]smile.gif[/img] . That's another reason im not wearing the robe again (although most of all i miss my constant full supply of fatigue which lets me run forever and instantly fight without having to worry to be out of fatigue again grrr.) coz now i gotta think more again on which spells to use on what type of monsters. I got so many spells now pfff. I think i got all the different types of spells i could have right now, got all the drain, absorb, fortify etc etc spells. All manually made, i just buy 1 or so absorb spell for instance, then go to a make spell guy and make all the spells for absorb health, absorb strength, absorb willpower etc etc. Do that for every spell i come across and now i got a huge list of damn spells.

I wish there was some kinda macro which would let me make different combat comfigurations with different kinda spells coz that's the only tedious thing so far about the game, having to look through this huge spell list every second during a fight to choose the right next spell in line.

I guess enchanted items would solve that problem but then again i got enchantment at skilllvl 65 now and i still cant make a simple enchanted item with the cheapest soulgem of 300 g or so pfff. I guess unless i reload 1000 times again like before but thats to damn boring.
Its my second list skill, not a major skill, but i thought 65 should be high enough coz i got no skill under 50 and 2 skills at lvl 70 and the rest all following closely. It sux coz i want to make my own enchanted coolios items but i guess they made it pretty hard to do to not overpower your char.
No clue either on how to get the amount of gold together to let a mage make the enchanted item for me since i still have to find a barter that takes items over 5000 g. The one i use is in caldera (in the manor) and gives full price for the items you sell him and has 5000 g on him always.Most money i usually have on me is 6000 or 7000 a time,which i then use to make custom spells to get my list more organized (dont like those weird kinda spell names) so they are easier to find, and spend the rest on trainings (if they let me coz often they dont saying they cant teach me anything more bout the skill. I guess im to low status in the mageguild so im now more concentrating on getting my rank up, think i'm warlock now or something like that, and must get my butt in the telvaani house so i can improve more.

Oh btw vesselle, if you can get Telekinese then go for it. Its awsome for thieving hehehe. I made a custom spell for a distance of 50 feet and i can now thief from chests i couldnt before coz there were to many people closeby to disable my sneaking [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Ah well im gonna try that plugin for that house in the starter town [img]smile.gif[/img] . No g in the boxes etc though but a teleport ring and npc's to sell and to let you travel to mageguilds seem very nice. Not really cheating i think coz it just saves me alot of running up and down so i can concentrate on the game more.
Before that i just used the biggest manor in Balmera, wasted that guy way early in the game coz i kinda liked his house and it's been mine since then hehehe hihihi im so bad [img]smile.gif[/img] [img]tongue.gif[/img] . I figure why use a plugin if you can have the biggest house in town for free hihihihi.

I still gotta pick up the main quest though, maybe i should join some imperial house for that or something, im hoping Telvaani will let me progress again in the main plot.
I now found out where to get into Talvaani, seems in wolverine town or whatever its called. Been there but only in the mages guild and never been outside. Seems to be a talvaani town. The wizard that i wasted for his coolios robes told me that.Well i could kill him coz he told me that in talvaani its ok if you kill the competition coz their way of thinking is that the one that won had a better arguement [img]tongue.gif[/img] . So i guess my arguement was best [img]smile.gif[/img] ).
Besides, he was to damn sinister to my liking pff. He has creepy monsters running around in his place.

Greetz,

Reggie !!!!

[vesselle]

OMG!! reg!! you're too funny.

he was too sinister for you???? hahahahahaha he musta been horrible indeed. ROFLMAOPIMP!!!! is your rating still at 9? or did it actually go up a bit for killing this bonehoarder mage?

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[Saltheart Foamfollower]

Reggie... I like your approach to the game world... May not agree with your style, but who cares, right...

Now, as for consenquences not being useful in an open ended game, you could not be so wrong... I hope MW takes a cue from BG II, and actually surpasses the effects of reputation/consequences...

It may take longer to complete the main quest, maybe a bit more difficult, but there is always a way out, a way for redemption, if wanted...

Personally, I believed the Ultima series to be too orientated towards good. The BG series was to wishy washsy at the end, either as good or evil, think about who you were (Bhaalspawn)...

From the looks of Morrowind, with the open ended, and non linearity story line, consenquences should be taken into account, as you start out as a true neutral character with skills, but no personality...

That is what may make this a classic, the extensive quests available, and the openness of the story line...

[Reggie]

Hehehe well he had these scary beasts walking around his place, all neutral but still, i didnt trust him P [img]smile.gif[/img] .

Besides, he looked like he was wearing coolios equipment hehehe.

Well right now im lvl 43 or so and my reputation is 11.

Dont forget though im kinda cheating by reloading games alot. If i get the message 'crime reported' after i killed someone then ill just reload and leave him alive hehehe.

I dont care much bout me going to jail or anyting but what i do care about is that once they arrest you they seem to randomly remove items from your inventory, even though you stole those agessssssssss ago like 20 lvls back or whatever, so that sux.

Maybe i should just replay the game some time coz i guess the way i play it, with all the saves/reloads is the same as cheating. Been thinking bout that lately,i think it makes the game much more interresting/involving if i just pay the consequences.

Greetz,

Reggie !!!!