Is Slayer useless?-HUGE SPOILERS - Page 2

Gangrell · 04-30-2003, 10:53 PM

I'm with Xero on this. A mage going through the game, solo or otherwise, will need to use a little raw muscle in the game every now and again. The slayer is good with providing that against certain beasts. Now I know mages can't cast spells while in Slayer form, but if you throw up your protections beforehand then shapechange, you'll be tough to beat.

Jon Irenicus · 04-30-2003, 11:44 PM

Slayer = last resort .... I only use it when it is needed.... MAn it just kicks ass!!!!

Pirengle · 04-30-2003, 11:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Gangrell:
I'm with Xero on this. A mage going through the game, solo or otherwise, will need to use a little raw muscle in the game every now and again.

Elmonster would beg to differ. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

I am a big advocate of roleplay over powerplay, and I'll spare y'all from the lecture. It's your game, etc. etc. etc.

Gangrell · 05-01-2003, 12:06 AM

Well, you can't always depend on spells Pirengle, a mage does eventually run out of them [img]tongue.gif[/img]

The Lilarcor · 05-01-2003, 01:24 AM

just a little question, if you are soloing, and in underdark, where the drow most certainly don't know of your rep, and you kill a bunch by the slayer, how do others know that your rep has gone down when all those that witnessed are dead? Does helm watch and tell his priets or something?

SixOfSpades · 05-01-2003, 03:10 AM

So far, I haven't found a single combat-related thing that the Slayer can do that Korgan or Minsc can't--and that's WITHOUT losing Rep or dying after fifteen seconds. Half the time, my Slayer gets a Morale Failure, and your ApR and THAC0 become rather irrelevant when you're just standing there, wetting your pants, letting the bad guys pound on you, and unable to issue such basic commands as "Drink that Healing Potion!"

The only real use I've found for the Slayer so far is a way to save on Illithid Control Collars. That's about it.

Dundee Slaytern · 05-01-2003, 04:07 AM

I once used Slayer form when I played a saved game for somebody else. He was having trouble getting past a certain ToB Boss with his Sorcerer and Minsc, so I was interested in trying out the fight myself.

That was about the only time I used the Slayer form, because I ran out of spells, and I do mean really ran out of spells( no Project Image). [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Not to mention mediorce equipment. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

ToB Spoilers.

ADD] Note that as it was quite some time ago, I have deleted the screenshots already.

[ 05-01-2003, 04:13 AM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

Alson · 05-01-2003, 06:43 AM

Interesting Bit o' Trivia:
Pro-Magical-Energy will protect against the damage from extended Slayer Change. [img]smile.gif[/img]

You still die if you wait too long, though.

daan · 05-01-2003, 09:04 AM

But would too long mean the duration of the Pro-magical energy -spell or just set timer after which you die ?
1 turn /level of being the slayer does bring some nice advantages [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Alson · 05-01-2003, 09:07 AM

Dunno. I'll look into it...

Ponders about Death Ward.

04-30-2003, 11:44 PM	#12
Jon Irenicus Elminster Join Date: July 24, 2002 Location: New Zealand Age: 37 Posts: 407	Slayer = last resort .... I only use it when it is needed.... MAn it just kicks ass!!!! __________________ Strike with great VENGEANCE!!!

05-01-2003, 01:24 AM	#15
The Lilarcor Elminster Join Date: October 24, 2002 Location: Traveling to wrestle a dangerous Ent Age: 39 Posts: 405	just a little question, if you are soloing, and in underdark, where the drow most certainly don't know of your rep, and you kill a bunch by the slayer, how do others know that your rep has gone down when all those that witnessed are dead? Does helm watch and tell his priets or something? __________________ ...Since when do you care about me unless I\'m impaled in somethings guts?!

05-01-2003, 03:10 AM	#16
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	So far, I haven't found a single combat-related thing that the Slayer can do that Korgan or Minsc can't--and that's WITHOUT losing Rep or dying after fifteen seconds. Half the time, my Slayer gets a Morale Failure, and your ApR and THAC0 become rather irrelevant when you're just standing there, wetting your pants, letting the bad guys pound on you, and unable to issue such basic commands as "Drink that Healing Potion!" The only real use I've found for the Slayer so far is a way to save on Illithid Control Collars. That's about it. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

05-01-2003, 06:43 AM	#18
Alson Galvatron Join Date: December 14, 2001 Location: Israel Age: 38 Posts: 2,187	Interesting Bit o' Trivia: Pro-Magical-Energy will protect against the damage from extended Slayer Change. [img]smile.gif[/img] You still die if you wait too long, though. __________________ In memory of Ilan Ramon - the first Israeli astronaut.<br /><br /><br />[url]\"http://members.chello.nl/~j.vanthull/BG2SR/Home.htm\" target=\"_blank\">BGII Spells Reference</a> - everything you ever wanted to know about spells!

05-01-2003, 09:04 AM	#19
daan Silver Dragon Join Date: August 25, 2001 Location: - Age: 40 Posts: 1,644	But would too long mean the duration of the Pro-magical energy -spell or just set timer after which you die ? 1 turn /level of being the slayer does bring some nice advantages [img]tongue.gif[/img] __________________ <strong> Odi et Amo. Quare id faciam facisse requires ? Nescio, sed fieri sentio et excrucior </strong><br /><br /><strong> Amantem cogit amare magis, sed bene velle minus </strong>

04-30-2003, 10:53 PM	#11
Gangrell Iron Throne Cult Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Big Castle in the Sky Age: 38 Posts: 4,835	I'm with Xero on this. A mage going through the game, solo or otherwise, will need to use a little raw muscle in the game every now and again. The slayer is good with providing that against certain beasts. Now I know mages can't cast spells while in Slayer form, but if you throw up your protections beforehand then shapechange, you'll be tough to beat.

05-01-2003, 12:06 AM	#14
Gangrell Iron Throne Cult Join Date: January 2, 2003 Location: Big Castle in the Sky Age: 38 Posts: 4,835	Well, you can't always depend on spells Pirengle, a mage does eventually run out of them [img]tongue.gif[/img]

05-01-2003, 04:07 AM	#17
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	I once used Slayer form when I played a saved game for somebody else. He was having trouble getting past a certain ToB Boss with his Sorcerer and Minsc, so I was interested in trying out the fight myself. That was about the only time I used the Slayer form, because I ran out of spells, and I do mean really ran out of spells( no Project Image). [img]tongue.gif[/img] Not to mention mediorce equipment. [img]tongue.gif[/img] ToB Spoilers. ADD] Note that as it was quite some time ago, I have deleted the screenshots already. [ 05-01-2003, 04:13 AM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

05-01-2003, 09:07 AM	#20
Alson Galvatron Join Date: December 14, 2001 Location: Israel Age: 38 Posts: 2,187	Dunno. I'll look into it... Ponders about Death Ward. __________________ In memory of Ilan Ramon - the first Israeli astronaut.<br /><br /><br />[url]\"http://members.chello.nl/~j.vanthull/BG2SR/Home.htm\" target=\"_blank\">BGII Spells Reference</a> - everything you ever wanted to know about spells!

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