Druid vs. Mage

TaSSaDaR · 09-18-2002, 06:51 AM

You all know that a high-level mage (or sorc., this is not the point) is the most powerful creature in the game. I wanted to ask, is a high-level druid nearly as powerful? Or do they suck? The matter is that I wanna hit the game with a party of 2, thus still levelling rather fast, and hitting the XP cap pretty fast. My char will be a sorcerer. The other point is that I wanna do the Jaheira romance, so I chose her to be my only travelling companion. Now arises the question - will she be a real power, or just hide behind my speelcasting back??

Sir Exxon · 09-18-2002, 09:16 AM

A high-level Mage/Sorcerer is the most powerful character in the game, I agree. Druids also gets strong, but not nearby as powerful. A high-level Cavalier is better, IMO.
Mages/Sorcerers gets better spells then Druids in high levels, which says alot.

As for Jaheira, she will eventually become a pretty strong character. Your Sorcerer will ofcourse be better, but Jaheira is a good choice as a NPC with a Sorcerer, because she can Druid spells, which in some situations is better then Sorcerers, and she is a Fighter.

TaSSaDaR · 09-18-2002, 09:24 AM

Only one question stays: will not she prtevent me from levelling real fast, by taking 2/3 of all XP - she's a multiclass, and I've heard somewhere that XP is distributed so that multiclassed chars get a portion for each class, thus getting most XP in the party. And, I am used to playing some trics with invisibility, the ones that make enemies chase me all around the map, occasionally recieving a FoD etc... she will probably be a dead load in my party, because she is not a good tank at all, and I feel I will end up in hiding her in a far corner, killing everybody myself then. All the trouble in sake of a single romance... Weird, weird.

Sir Exxon · 09-18-2002, 09:30 AM

I wouldnt worry about it if it's only going to be the two of you. Sorcerers level up really fast, so 1/3 of all XP would be good enough.

TaSSaDaR · 09-18-2002, 09:32 AM

Have to give it a try. All that makes me want it is that I heard that Jaheira romance is really worth playing. Is it?

White Lancer · 09-18-2002, 10:00 AM

It was my understanding that each character gets a share of the experience. If there are only two characters, then each character gets half of the experience, if there are three, then each will get one third. If a character is multi-classed, then their share of the experience is divided equally between their two classes.

Example: your sorcerer and Jahiera.
You kill a lightning mephit at the beginning of the game (420 exp).
each of you get 210 exp (420/2=210).
Jahiera gets 105 exp for her fighter class and 105 for her druid class (210/2=105).

So multi-classed characters level REALLY slowly in a large party, as in a party of six, each of their classes will be getting 1/12 of the experience points gained.

enjoy

Dundee Slaytern · 09-18-2002, 10:54 AM

White Lancer's calculations are correct.

Alson · 09-18-2002, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sir Exxon:
Druids also gets strong, but not nearby as powerful. A high-level Cavalier is better, IMO.

I disagree.One spell makes all the difference - Nature's Beauty.
Most people don't even bother to give it a second look... *sigh*

Note the *no save*, *permanent* Blindness.

A Blind creature is a dead creature.
The Insta-Dying part is only gravy.
It's really one of the best spells in the game.

Quote:

Jaheira is a good choice as a NPC with a Sorcerer,

Dundee will disagree...

Dundee Slaytern · 09-18-2002, 11:47 AM

Druids are powerful, and I was expecting somebody to mention Insect Plague or Creeping Doom( although it can be countered).

Nevertheless, they are potent, what with Ironskins, Summon Elementals, Call Lightning, Call Woodland Beings, etc... ...

As for the concept of Jaheira and a Sorcerer... well... from a roleplaying point of view, I guess she will drive Odin Magnus into a psychopathic rage which will lead him on a rampage across Faerun, kicking Jon Irenicus' butt and teaching Bodhi the meaning of pain and suffering. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

Alson · 09-18-2002, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dundee Slaytern:
Druids are powerful, and I was expecting somebody to mention Insect Plague or Creeping Doom( although it can be countered). Nevertheless, they are potent, what with Ironskins, Summon Elementals, Call Lightning, Call Woodland Beings, etc... ...

These are all good spells, but none are as good as Nature's Beauty.
If NB was an Arcane Spell, it would've been at least level 8, IMO.
No in game creature, AFAIK, is immune to Blindness!

Two more things about this spells:
First, it's radius is actually TWICE the size the Manual claims...

*** Cheese Alert ***

Second, you can cast this spell while remaining INVISIBLE!!!
This is a HUGE plus...
And it's really funny if you read the spell desciption...

09-18-2002, 06:51 AM	#1
TaSSaDaR Baaz Draconian Join Date: August 27, 2002 Location: Russia Age: 39 Posts: 734	You all know that a high-level mage (or sorc., this is not the point) is the most powerful creature in the game. I wanted to ask, is a high-level druid nearly as powerful? Or do they suck? The matter is that I wanna hit the game with a party of 2, thus still levelling rather fast, and hitting the XP cap pretty fast. My char will be a sorcerer. The other point is that I wanna do the Jaheira romance, so I chose her to be my only travelling companion. Now arises the question - will she be a real power, or just hide behind my speelcasting back?? __________________ En taro Adun!<br />En taro, mighty Tassadar!

09-18-2002, 09:24 AM	#3
TaSSaDaR Baaz Draconian Join Date: August 27, 2002 Location: Russia Age: 39 Posts: 734	Only one question stays: will not she prtevent me from levelling real fast, by taking 2/3 of all XP - she's a multiclass, and I've heard somewhere that XP is distributed so that multiclassed chars get a portion for each class, thus getting most XP in the party. And, I am used to playing some trics with invisibility, the ones that make enemies chase me all around the map, occasionally recieving a FoD etc... she will probably be a dead load in my party, because she is not a good tank at all, and I feel I will end up in hiding her in a far corner, killing everybody myself then. All the trouble in sake of a single romance... Weird, weird. __________________ En taro Adun!<br />En taro, mighty Tassadar!

09-18-2002, 09:32 AM	#5
TaSSaDaR Baaz Draconian Join Date: August 27, 2002 Location: Russia Age: 39 Posts: 734	Have to give it a try. All that makes me want it is that I heard that Jaheira romance is really worth playing. Is it? __________________ En taro Adun!<br />En taro, mighty Tassadar!

09-18-2002, 10:00 AM	#6
White Lancer Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: August 30, 2002 Location: Australia Age: 39 Posts: 628	It was my understanding that each character gets a share of the experience. If there are only two characters, then each character gets half of the experience, if there are three, then each will get one third. If a character is multi-classed, then their share of the experience is divided equally between their two classes. Example: your sorcerer and Jahiera. You kill a lightning mephit at the beginning of the game (420 exp). each of you get 210 exp (420/2=210). Jahiera gets 105 exp for her fighter class and 105 for her druid class (210/2=105). So multi-classed characters level REALLY slowly in a large party, as in a party of six, each of their classes will be getting 1/12 of the experience points gained. enjoy __________________ It deons\'t mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, it olny mtaetrs taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be croecrt. The rset can be a tatol mses and you can sitll raed it. The huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

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09-18-2002, 09:16 AM	#2
Sir Exxon Zartan Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 36 Posts: 5,367	A high-level Mage/Sorcerer is the most powerful character in the game, I agree. Druids also gets strong, but not nearby as powerful. A high-level Cavalier is better, IMO. Mages/Sorcerers gets better spells then Druids in high levels, which says alot. As for Jaheira, she will eventually become a pretty strong character. Your Sorcerer will ofcourse be better, but Jaheira is a good choice as a NPC with a Sorcerer, because she can Druid spells, which in some situations is better then Sorcerers, and she is a Fighter.

09-18-2002, 09:30 AM	#4
Sir Exxon Zartan Join Date: October 15, 2001 Location: Oslo, Norway Age: 36 Posts: 5,367	I wouldnt worry about it if it's only going to be the two of you. Sorcerers level up really fast, so 1/3 of all XP would be good enough.

09-18-2002, 10:54 AM	#7
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	White Lancer's calculations are correct.

09-18-2002, 11:47 AM	#9
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Druids are powerful, and I was expecting somebody to mention Insect Plague or Creeping Doom( although it can be countered). Nevertheless, they are potent, what with Ironskins, Summon Elementals, Call Lightning, Call Woodland Beings, etc... ... As for the concept of Jaheira and a Sorcerer... well... from a roleplaying point of view, I guess she will drive Odin Magnus into a psychopathic rage which will lead him on a rampage across Faerun, kicking Jon Irenicus' butt and teaching Bodhi the meaning of pain and suffering. [img]tongue.gif[/img]

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