6 Oil Lamps on Watcher's Keep Level 4 -- **SPOILER**

shea obrien · 08-25-2002, 11:14 PM

I am really stumped on Level 4 in Watcher's Keep and its driving me batty! Somebody help please! So I've gathered the three different color oils, and I've figured that the shapes on the floor on either side of the machine room give the color positions... but I can't get an option to light the torches. Somebody please don't tell me that the tinderbox I used to light the fire on Level 1 is needed here.... any suggestions about where/how I can get something that will give me the option of lighting the torches? Thanks!

Dundee Slaytern · 08-25-2002, 11:25 PM

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Hmmmm... if I recall correctly, there is a lighter in the Githyanki Encampment. Check the chests when you first enter the area. Use the Tab button to help you highlight the chests.

Welcome to the Ironworks Forums by the way, shea obrien.

Legolas The Magnificent · 08-26-2002, 04:26 AM

i spent 5 hours pondering about the oil, and the fire combination when i first played the game and its so briliant. the tinderbox and the three coloured oil are needed to light the lamps. the first chest (or looks like) on the right when you enter the fort contains the tinder. enjoy!

shea obrien · 08-26-2002, 09:14 PM

*******SPOILER*********

Thanks guys! I wonder if I didn't pick it up and then lose it during the lich fight... two of my party got "imprisoned" and I had to rest to learn freedom and then free them; I wonder if maybe they dropped it when imprisoned, I didn't pick it up, and then it got cleaned out of the crypt while I was sleeping in my pocket plane.

In any case, after searching diligently where you guys suggested and finding nothing (again, I probably lost it somehow before I needed it), I couldn't bear to go all the way back and play the whole level again so I resorted to figuring out how to set the debug switch to enable the console, and did a CLUAConsole:CreateItem("PLOT04F")... that did the trick.

I was a little jaded, because somehow I lost one of the gems on the level above and had spent four hours replaying that one from my save point in order to find them... wasn't about to do that again. I'll try not to resort to that again, although I must say I felt rather *powerful* at the console window!

Thx!

Grindar Silvermane · 08-27-2002, 01:40 AM

Hey Shea,

First a word of welcome to IronWorks.

As for the tinderbox: I never even noted it was needed to light the oil.
I always picked it up without thinking about it and lit the oil kind of automatically. As far as I recall you're never asked to use the tinderbox as long as you have it with you, so I never knew I was like being kinda enjoying some fools luck

Kaltia · 08-27-2002, 12:39 PM

Oooh...the first time I fought that little demi-lich, it imprisoned Minsc...and his stuff dropped behind that damn crypt you can open, so I couldn't pick it up! [img]graemlins/1pissed.gif[/img]
I never knew that the floor tiles gave the pattern away. I thought Bioware were cruel enough to give you a puzzle with no answer, so I minimised and checked Gamebanshee [img]tongue.gif[/img]

whacky · 08-28-2002, 04:28 AM

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Originally posted by Kaltia
Oooh...the first time I fought that little demi-lich, it imprisoned Minsc...and his stuff dropped behind that damn crypt you can open, so I couldn't pick it up!
I never knew that the floor tiles gave the pattern away. I thought Bioware were cruel enough to give you a puzzle with no answer, so I minimised and checked Gamebanshee

Wow, there's a demi-lich in ToB, yay ! Now i get to finish him with my solo sorcerer, oh man i just love spell caster vs. spell caster fights. Oh and does anyone know where to get that children something mod which makes your char a lich when he/she dies, cant seem to find it.

[ 08-28-2002, 04:42 AM: Message edited by: whacky ]

Dundee Slaytern · 08-28-2002, 04:31 AM

Demi-Liches are surprisingly disappointing against high-level Mages. One Dragon Breath/Comet and *poof*, the Demi-Lich is dead... ...

[ 08-28-2002, 04:32 AM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

08-26-2002, 04:26 AM	#3
Legolas The Magnificent Zhentarim Guard Join Date: July 16, 2002 Location: Bangkok, Thailand Age: 46 Posts: 338	i spent 5 hours pondering about the oil, and the fire combination when i first played the game and its so briliant. the tinderbox and the three coloured oil are needed to light the lamps. the first chest (or looks like) on the right when you enter the fort contains the tinder. enjoy! __________________ \"my arrowhead welcomes your heart\"<br /><br /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" /> <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[greenbounce]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/greenbounce.gif\" />

08-27-2002, 01:40 AM	#5
Grindar Silvermane Manshoon Join Date: December 4, 2001 Location: Temple of Tempus: The High Hall of Swords and Banners Age: 56 Posts: 164	Hey Shea, First a word of welcome to IronWorks. As for the tinderbox: I never even noted it was needed to light the oil. I always picked it up without thinking about it and lit the oil kind of automatically. As far as I recall you're never asked to use the tinderbox as long as you have it with you, so I never knew I was like being kinda enjoying some fools luck __________________ Chaos rules!<br /><br />Grindar Silvermane<br />The Sword of the Lord<br /><br />And cause & effect of the Chaos Theory

08-27-2002, 12:39 PM	#6
Kaltia Jack Burton Join Date: May 2, 2002 Location: Canterbury, England Age: 38 Posts: 5,817	Oooh...the first time I fought that little demi-lich, it imprisoned Minsc...and his stuff dropped behind that damn crypt you can open, so I couldn't pick it up! [img]graemlins/1pissed.gif[/img] I never knew that the floor tiles gave the pattern away. I thought Bioware were cruel enough to give you a puzzle with no answer, so I minimised and checked Gamebanshee [img]tongue.gif[/img] __________________ The wolf is as cunning as he is ferocious; once he's had a taste of flesh then nothing else will do.

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08-25-2002, 11:14 PM	#1
shea obrien Welcomed New User Join Date: August 25, 2002 Location: Colorado Age: 57 Posts: 2	I am really stumped on Level 4 in Watcher's Keep and its driving me batty! Somebody help please! So I've gathered the three different color oils, and I've figured that the shapes on the floor on either side of the machine room give the color positions... but I can't get an option to light the torches. Somebody please don't tell me that the tinderbox I used to light the fire on Level 1 is needed here.... any suggestions about where/how I can get something that will give me the option of lighting the torches? Thanks!

08-25-2002, 11:25 PM	#2
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Spoiler ~ ~ ~ ~ Hmmmm... if I recall correctly, there is a lighter in the Githyanki Encampment. Check the chests when you first enter the area. Use the Tab button to help you highlight the chests. Welcome to the Ironworks Forums by the way, shea obrien.

08-26-2002, 09:14 PM	#4
shea obrien Welcomed New User Join Date: August 25, 2002 Location: Colorado Age: 57 Posts: 2	*****SPOILER******* Thanks guys! I wonder if I didn't pick it up and then lose it during the lich fight... two of my party got "imprisoned" and I had to rest to learn freedom and then free them; I wonder if maybe they dropped it when imprisoned, I didn't pick it up, and then it got cleaned out of the crypt while I was sleeping in my pocket plane. In any case, after searching diligently where you guys suggested and finding nothing (again, I probably lost it somehow before I needed it), I couldn't bear to go all the way back and play the whole level again so I resorted to figuring out how to set the debug switch to enable the console, and did a CLUAConsole:CreateItem("PLOT04F")... that did the trick. I was a little jaded, because somehow I lost one of the gems on the level above and had spent four hours replaying that one from my save point in order to find them... wasn't about to do that again. I'll try not to resort to that again, although I must say I felt rather powerful at the console window! Thx!

08-28-2002, 04:31 AM	#8
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Demi-Liches are surprisingly disappointing against high-level Mages. One Dragon Breath/Comet and poof, the Demi-Lich is dead... ... [ 08-28-2002, 04:32 AM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

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