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[Ivychari Meyu]

Ok, here's my plan.

Korag, Beserker Dwarf.
Stats:
STR: 18/90
DEX: 17
CON: 19
INT: 3
WIS: 3
CHAR: 15 (18 with ROHI)

I think I should have put Charisma at the min and boosted int and wisdom, but I don't think Beserkers need those at all anyway, so.

Profeciencies:
Flail: ****
Sword and sheild style: **

I'm gonna give him a good sheild, maybe the fortress sheild or the sheild in Fiirkrag's dungeon. I'm also gonna give him the Flail of Ages from Nalia's Keep. For armor, maybe dragon armor, or full plate with some +1 or +2. I want to keep Minsc and Jaheria heavily armored as well.

My plan for Minsc is to give him two weapons, but which I don't know. Typically I give him Flail of Ages and Frostweaver, but I suspect Frostwaver and some other +1/2 weapon would be suffecient. For armor full plate male +1/2 would suffice. Perhaps he'll even usen the Elven Court Bow with arrows +1.

Jaheria is going to be sword and sheild style, and use Doom, some healing spells, and summon spells. No shapeshifting for her, and she'll use a Scimitar with some type of Sheild.

Yoshimo is going to get a high detect traps/lockpicking so I can get all those goodies and not loose Korag by stepping on some trap that casts disinitgrate or something. Yoshimo will use his Katana, but I'll also give him Daystar and boost his profeciency with short swords. He'll have a decent hide in shadows for backstabbing, and I never use traps.

Arie is going to use Staff Spear and Staff of Healing for combat with enemies who don't deserve any spells. She'll use magic missles, chromatic orb, fireball, miscast/dispell magic and breach. Also some healing spells, and protection froms.

Things I'll typically carry around with me are identifying scrolls, plenty of potions, and scrolls of restoration. I'm definately going to carry around potions of strength (for long battles when my spellcasters run out of spells, boost strength and let them fight) and definately potions of giant strengths for tough battles. Oils of speed are a definate. Gem bag, potions of master theivery.

For the last guy in the group, whatever. Anything will do, I usually ditch them after the quest anyway. Maybe Keldorn or someone.

Alright, plan of action. Do most of the Athkatla quests first, then venture out into the world. Nalia's quest is a must do for now, so I can get some gold for buying items and some quick experience, and get rid of all those fire/acid arrows I never use. Sounds good to me.

Ok, I want your opinions on this, but also I'd like to know where to get the spells "Wail of the Banshee" "Finger of Death" "Great Malison" cuz I can never seem to find them. Thanks!

[Barlik Longbeard]

Keldorn is good cuz he can use the Casomyr. But I would get a Cleric. They can use Finger of Death and a whole load of other good spells at lower levels than that of a Mage. The mage spells can be found in the Adventurers Mart afetr you do Chapter 5 in Whats-his-face's "Special Wares". There.

[PeeWee]

Sounds like a plan. And hi again [img]smile.gif[/img]
This time I have my smokes and cigs... and aint been confronted with 20 cheat posts today YET. Read my other post if ya want.


Your berserker looks good. I would check the dex table if you want to fully get all the ac you can outta dex if you can take one away from charisma. Nice high con.

The full plate mail thats just regular issue can be picked up throughout the somewhat early parts of the game. I kept these and tried to save slots for some protection +2 gear. I haven't found any yet so can now switch out to full plate+1 or dragon armor. If I find pro+2 gear, I'm going back to using regular full plate for my lil tankers.

May wanna consider two longswords for Minsc since they are easier to be found.

SPOILER so beware

There is also a katana called celestial fury. Yoshi seems like he would be happy to using this while Minsc can use the daystar. Someone gave me a spoiler and um... well some things happen later later later in the game where um... Well just say that my bounty hunter uses celestial fury and I don't have a use for Yoshi.

Also, I must say to try and really try to get the staff of the magi for Aerie when you are of level - 12'ish or so and GEARED UP to do it. The flail I'd keep on your main, but you SURE you don't want em to be proficient in a secondary weapon in case?


For the spells, I would say greater mal is somewhere in trademeet in one of the camps but I'm really not sure. I'll try looking there later again. I'll also check if Wail was one of those spells I found in adventuring- haven't seen it in stores yet. I know for the 6-7th level spells, I've found alot of mine thru hunting.

Note also, you won't be facing too much undead now, but later on, it's a good idea to have a few characters using weapons with effects for undead. Minsc is good for going against undead....but then you have Aerie to turn the lesser undead.

I just now completed Nalia's keep on a lil test run. Finished the whole deal and didn't save...had too much stuff to drop and sell. Another one of those stories.

And Minsc using a bow is a good idea( for when the time is right..like when ranged attacks is smart). Good to know ahead of time what is available so you can put points into it. I unfortunately have yet to learn. Got some nifty bows now but no one to use em.

Jaheira looks good. Also try an entangle combo...have her use entangle while Aerie can cloudkill or fireball the crappy npcs. this is where Minsc with his bow can be useful too. Insect plague too, it can get up to 6 npcs as well as interrupt their casting and dish out considerable dmg over time. I wouldn't shapeshift her either. I equip her with a mace I think or club... one of those she has like 2 points in. I got her the weapon with the +3 acid to it. Easy maintenance and good ac once you get going.

Btw, with Yoshi never using traps... it's really not a bad idea to use traps when you can do it in a sense that ain't cheesy. I sometimes engage an npc when I'm cloaked in hopes to backstab it to death and when I fail I run to my party with Aerie ready to cast something like skull trap on the incoming npc. Then if that doesn't work, I set a trap in some far area in case my main has to stay there in safety for the time being. It really helps and is quite effective - sometimes too effective where it makes me not wanna use it either.

On Aerie, staff of the Magi... is all I ask ya try for when the time is right. Then when you get money, I also suggest ya invest in the robe of Vecna. Her casting time has decreased soo much, well it's noticable.

Oh, about the identifying scrolls, when you can, try to buy the glasses that gives you 3 identifies per day I believe. You should have no problem locating them.

Sounds like a good plan. Nalia's keep is fairly easy but one thing: watch for the golems. Don't go in there too early without proper methods or gear. They were a pushover only when I had better gear and armor as well as being level 14. I still hate trolls and that area for some reason.

Quests that help exp: circus, Slums area(slavers), above room where they have the 4 guys in prom district, poisoned guy, bridge district/skinner, trademeet to the groves, nalia's about this time, another set of guys somewhere else...forgot where, might can try your luck now for the staff of the magi, umar hills, compound in temple district, then either temple district sewers, find the planar sphere or get the dragons about this time.

I saved the planar sphere and temple dis sewers for last( dunno why, probably becuase I had to fetch too many other npcs or thinking I will). Got to run thru Nalia's keep today and then head there.

Well G'luck on it and if ya got any questions, break it down and I'll be more than willing to help.

[Whailor]

Heh, PeeWee wants to say about Yoshi as the ole Renal Bloodscalp did say about someone else: "Good thief, but I never liked him. Now I know why."

EDIT: about the plan, then nah, you could do better then that. Minsc will be quite well off with dual axes for example, the Stonefire and Frostreaver, both attainable rather early in the game. Flail of Ages is good, not bad to take it, but why not then benefit with the main char, who seems to be a MAIN tank, from dual wielding, which obviously is a good damage source? Use Flail of Ages and Celestial Fury yourself and watch the enemies drop dead fast. Of course, there's always other ways too.

Regarding the stats - crappy, you should definately be able to roll better ones. Try to get the STR to 18/00 if possible, DEX 18, CON 18 too (19 with dwarf). Lower CHA some, try to keep INT and WIS at, say, 10 (can make better tho as well). In any case, there's definately some room left to get significally better stats.

You do not want Yoshi to use katana and melee, else you want him to die, waste your healing spells or potions. Give him a shortbow and make sure he is not in front lines. Jaheira/Aerie can use slings and appropriate melee weapons when someone jumps them, not that they are good with those. Aerie anyway, Jaheira can whack someone. Nalia/Imoen should use shortbows and try to stay away from melee combat. Anomen/Vicky can fight some, but it will be some time before Vicky will be of any use in melee combat really, so try to get her some sling as well. Anomen is better in this regard, he's sort of wanna-be warrior too, but make sure he's not the first to get hit or to get aggroed on He can fight, but he is not a pure tank type.

Basically, who is not a tank, don't even try to turn him/her into it, will be a waste. Everyone is good at what they do and no point in trying to turn them into something they are not. As for quests, then it's up to you, as you want to do. Definately do some quests at least in Chaper 2, as in Chapter 3 (if you side with Shadow Thieves) you will fight some vampires and they aren't exactly an easy bunch. However, definately try to gain some levels before you leave the chapter 3, better to be prepared for future fights.

[ 02-12-2002: Message edited by: Whailor ]

[Ivychari Meyu]

Ok, well, don't kill me but I'm getting an editor. Sorry about that, but I realize mistakes I made and I can't start over again. HOWEVER, My error was only with profeciency/stat allocation and you can rest assured that I will NOT be pumping my guys to impossible levels or adding items.

A choice here- Minsc. Lilacor, or two axes, or axe and daystar?

Yoshimo is using that katana. He's actually not too bad in combat, he does decent damage and if he gets attacked just move him. He's basically my trap detector/item getter/lock picker. Good to have him.

I've only played the game through Nalia's keep and Windspear/Umar hill so I'm not aware of too many items, sorry about that.

I'm just wondering, what do the /xx numbers by str mean anyway?

[Ivychari Meyu]

*bump*

[Harry]

man raise your intelligence up. Those Illithid will kill you

[Foo]

Just my 2c on Minsc- I've always had him dual-wield Crom Faeyr and either of Daystar\Mace of Disruption\Celestial Fury. He's an absolute killing machine!

But then I usually drop him in TOB for a MUCH better fighter....