Annoying Tactics Mod issue

Stratos · 12-11-2004, 06:09 PM

I recently started to play BG2 with Tactics mod and Ascension installed, but run into a problem. I'm still in Chateau Irenicus, but after each rest some annoying red-dressed dwarves pop up; one fighter and one mage getting the better of me. Which part of Tactics do I have to uninstalled to get rid of these party-poopers? Is it the one about always getting the most difficult random encounter? I've played around with the installation, uninstalling this and that, but they show up anyway.

Thanks!

JayS · 12-11-2004, 06:11 PM

Improved Ilyich

Stratos · 12-11-2004, 06:18 PM

Ilyich, huh? I installed his part, but later uninstalled it. The Readme did say that you have to restart the game to make it have any effect. I suppose I'll just have to export my Skald and restart from the beginning. No big problem, I just reached the room were you get the golem heart and the activation key for the tanks.

Thanks, JayS!

Cerek · 12-11-2004, 08:00 PM

Personally, I would leave Improved Illyich in. Those duergar ARE annoying, but they CAN be beaten. I went through the Chateau with Tactics installed with a solo Skald myself. I admit that I wasn't able to kill ALL of the duergar I met (I had to just leave the group assembled in the tunnels next to the library, but I DID kill most of them. Then I used Yoshimo to act as a mule and carry all the booty I got off them to the Copper Coronet for me. I stored all my loot in the sewer room (where you fight the Otyugh), then loaded Yoshimo down with everything I had gathered at that point (except for items I thought I might need). Then I kicked him out of the party and told him to meet me at a local inn when we got out.

Improved Illyich was fairly tough, but I managed to defeat them with my Skald and got their magnificent bounty to use or sell.

If you need any help defeating the Chateau, just do a "Search" for "Improved Illyich". There is only a few dozen threads on the subject, so you can find lots of different tactics used by the members based on different characters and abilities.

Hank Parsons · 12-11-2004, 09:22 PM

If they're getting you when you Rest, try not resting. That's a tactic.

JayS · 12-11-2004, 09:32 PM

You could also try resting in a spot where you can escape from the spawns without them noticing you. Usually, the duergar don't spawn right in front of you.

JayS · 12-11-2004, 09:57 PM

Actually, maybe the Ilyich component does not affect those duergar. Look here: http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php?topic=17423.0

Xen · 12-12-2004, 06:49 AM

I have just beaten his whole gang yesterday. Here is how I did it. I picked up all the equipment and I was off. After killing the first Imp I went to the direction where the stone Golem is. Those packs of Duergars are easy. First I sent Minsc to scout. Then Duergar Proletariat attacked him. Now thing with Duergars is that they don't change targets. They chase who they attack. So Minsc was running in circles while Jaheira and my Kensai attacked him. For those three Imps ahead use MGoI. (Minor Globe of Invulnerability)
Then kill the two Golems. I made Imoen attack one of them (while she has Stoneskin on) so they can't hurt her. They I kill them with Jaheira, Minsc and my Kensai. After activating the Stone Golem I go back the the cells and attack Greater Otyugh from the lower tunnel. I summon up something and use the summonig as a bait. Now when he is on Near Death I usually try to kill him with Magic Missile from distance so that my fighters can run away becuase of his Insects. After getting Yoshimo the main course was on the menu.
Iliych and his friends. How you kill them is probably your choice but I killed Rasputin, then Ilyich, then Golem, then Galabrezu, then Kamrazov and Zhivago. Yoshimo backstabbed Karmazov for 122 dmg. [img]smile.gif[/img]
I say try to kill them. You will feel very good.

[ 12-12-2004, 06:51 AM: Message edited by: Xen ]

Stratos · 12-12-2004, 07:33 AM

The Ilyich component is suppose to spawn thieves, right? Not duergars or dwarves or whatever they are.

I just tried to start a new game, but the still spawn whenver I rest. Any tips on what it might be?

Xen · 12-12-2004, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Stratos:
The Ilyich component is suppose to spawn thieves, right? Not duergars or dwarves or whatever they are.

I just tried to start a new game, but the still spawn whenver I rest. Any tips on what it might be?

No. It used to spawn Thieves but then Weimer changed it. Thieves were to hard to kill since they were going invisible all the time.

12-11-2004, 06:09 PM	#1
Stratos Vampire Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 44 Posts: 3,888	I recently started to play BG2 with Tactics mod and Ascension installed, but run into a problem. I'm still in Chateau Irenicus, but after each rest some annoying red-dressed dwarves pop up; one fighter and one mage getting the better of me. Which part of Tactics do I have to uninstalled to get rid of these party-poopers? Is it the one about always getting the most difficult random encounter? I've played around with the installation, uninstalling this and that, but they show up anyway. Thanks! __________________ Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.

12-11-2004, 06:18 PM	#3
Stratos Vampire Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 44 Posts: 3,888	Ilyich, huh? I installed his part, but later uninstalled it. The Readme did say that you have to restart the game to make it have any effect. I suppose I'll just have to export my Skald and restart from the beginning. No big problem, I just reached the room were you get the golem heart and the activation key for the tanks. Thanks, JayS! __________________ Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.

12-11-2004, 08:00 PM	#4
Cerek Registered Member Iron Throne Cult Join Date: August 27, 2004 Location: North Carolina Age: 62 Posts: 4,888	Personally, I would leave Improved Illyich in. Those duergar ARE annoying, but they CAN be beaten. I went through the Chateau with Tactics installed with a solo Skald myself. I admit that I wasn't able to kill ALL of the duergar I met (I had to just leave the group assembled in the tunnels next to the library, but I DID kill most of them. Then I used Yoshimo to act as a mule and carry all the booty I got off them to the Copper Coronet for me. I stored all my loot in the sewer room (where you fight the Otyugh), then loaded Yoshimo down with everything I had gathered at that point (except for items I thought I might need). Then I kicked him out of the party and told him to meet me at a local inn when we got out. Improved Illyich was fairly tough, but I managed to defeat them with my Skald and got their magnificent bounty to use or sell. If you need any help defeating the Chateau, just do a "Search" for "Improved Illyich". There is only a few dozen threads on the subject, so you can find lots of different tactics used by the members based on different characters and abilities. __________________ Cerek the Calmth

12-11-2004, 09:22 PM	#5
Hank Parsons Zhentarim Guard Join Date: February 14, 2004 Location: Georgia Age: 49 Posts: 357	If they're getting you when you Rest, try not resting. That's a tactic. __________________ <b>[url]\"http://www.boomspeed.com/colbruce/bg2.html\" target=\"_blank\"><i>BG2 Multiplayer Online Help & Info</a></i></b>

12-12-2004, 07:33 AM	#9
Stratos Vampire Join Date: January 29, 2003 Location: Sweden Age: 44 Posts: 3,888	The Ilyich component is suppose to spawn thieves, right? Not duergars or dwarves or whatever they are. I just tried to start a new game, but the still spawn whenver I rest. Any tips on what it might be? __________________ Nothing is impossible, it's just a matter of probability.

12-11-2004, 06:11 PM	#2
JayS Dungeon Master Join Date: August 11, 2004 Location: California Age: 35 Posts: 85	Improved Ilyich

12-11-2004, 09:32 PM	#6
JayS Dungeon Master Join Date: August 11, 2004 Location: California Age: 35 Posts: 85	You could also try resting in a spot where you can escape from the spawns without them noticing you. Usually, the duergar don't spawn right in front of you.

12-11-2004, 09:57 PM	#7
JayS Dungeon Master Join Date: August 11, 2004 Location: California Age: 35 Posts: 85	Actually, maybe the Ilyich component does not affect those duergar. Look here: http://forums.pocketplane.net/index.php?topic=17423.0

12-12-2004, 06:49 AM	#8
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 37 Posts: 8,554	I have just beaten his whole gang yesterday. Here is how I did it. I picked up all the equipment and I was off. After killing the first Imp I went to the direction where the stone Golem is. Those packs of Duergars are easy. First I sent Minsc to scout. Then Duergar Proletariat attacked him. Now thing with Duergars is that they don't change targets. They chase who they attack. So Minsc was running in circles while Jaheira and my Kensai attacked him. For those three Imps ahead use MGoI. (Minor Globe of Invulnerability) Then kill the two Golems. I made Imoen attack one of them (while she has Stoneskin on) so they can't hurt her. They I kill them with Jaheira, Minsc and my Kensai. After activating the Stone Golem I go back the the cells and attack Greater Otyugh from the lower tunnel. I summon up something and use the summonig as a bait. Now when he is on Near Death I usually try to kill him with Magic Missile from distance so that my fighters can run away becuase of his Insects. After getting Yoshimo the main course was on the menu. Iliych and his friends. How you kill them is probably your choice but I killed Rasputin, then Ilyich, then Golem, then Galabrezu, then Kamrazov and Zhivago. Yoshimo backstabbed Karmazov for 122 dmg. [img]smile.gif[/img] I say try to kill them. You will feel very good. [ 12-12-2004, 06:51 AM: Message edited by: Xen ]

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