Hmm, very interesting...

Lharae · 09-16-2002, 11:22 PM

I was just scrolling through the out-of-party characters list in Shadowkeeper, and I found character entries for Branwen and Xan. What's more, Xan is listed as having a INT of 25! Yep. 25! I have yet to find either of these two in the game, nor have I ever heard of them being involved except through certain mods that import BG1 NPC's. The only mod I've installed so far is Kelsey. Someone please explain this. Is it yet another example of the developers leaving their work unfinished?

pcgiant · 09-17-2002, 12:24 AM

They join you in the tutorial.

Desuma Malevois · 09-17-2002, 04:02 AM

FWIW, Xan has that 25 INT in the tutorial because you'll have to have him learn a spell, and that way he's got a 100% chance of suceeding (I know, he would with a 24, also).

White Lancer · 09-17-2002, 04:32 AM

all the party members in the tutorial have godly stats.

Mr Flibble · 09-17-2002, 11:47 AM

Yeah, they are definitely in the tutorial, and why they are so beefed up there is beyond me... maybe it's the dev's way of saying, 'HA! See, you can never have characters like this!' I know I haven't seen Branwen anywhere else than in the tutorial, but...

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Now, I may be wrong about this, but don't you also encounter Xan in the Docks lurking around the Harpers HQ, and sends you on a mission to find his thief friend inside the building? Or was that Xar... I can't remember for sure.

Dundee Slaytern · 09-17-2002, 12:29 PM

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It is Xzar in the Docks District, not Xan.

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Kaltia · 09-17-2002, 12:47 PM

Xzar is the annoying zent from BG1 who travels with the equally annoying thief Montaron. Xan is the elf at the end of the Nashkel mines with the moonblade.

Indemaijinj · 09-17-2002, 01:29 PM

If you play the tutorial and look at your fellow NPC's character sheets you will see some other anomalies.

They possess BG1 (small swords, large swords etc.) weapon proficiencies instead of BG2 ones for example.

If your play the tutorial the xp earned will carry over, but only the ones earned by you.

The versions of Imoen, Minsc and Jaheira are not the same as those in the real game.

Ilythiiri · 09-17-2002, 11:36 PM

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Originally posted by Indemaijinj:

If your play the tutorial the xp earned will carry over, but only the ones earned by you.

so do u advise that you play through the tutorial before entering the real game?

LennonCook · 09-18-2002, 02:21 AM

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Originally posted by Ilythiiri:
so do u advise that you play through the tutorial before entering the real game?

If this is your first go at any of the BG games then yes; if you`ve played either before, than you don`t need to but you can if you want.

09-16-2002, 11:22 PM	#1
Lharae Manshoon Join Date: September 5, 2002 Location: East Coast USA Age: 47 Posts: 153	I was just scrolling through the out-of-party characters list in Shadowkeeper, and I found character entries for Branwen and Xan. What's more, Xan is listed as having a INT of 25! Yep. 25! I have yet to find either of these two in the game, nor have I ever heard of them being involved except through certain mods that import BG1 NPC's. The only mod I've installed so far is Kelsey. Someone please explain this. Is it yet another example of the developers leaving their work unfinished? __________________ <img border=\"0\" alt=\"[warrior1]\" title=\"\" src=\"graemlins/warrior1.gif\" /> <br />If you don\'t know where I\'ve been, don\'t tell me what I am.

09-17-2002, 12:24 AM	#2
pcgiant Symbol of Cyric Join Date: July 11, 2002 Location: NZ Age: 38 Posts: 1,268	They join you in the tutorial. __________________ If possible, I want to relive my life... not as a devil. This time, someone like you.

09-17-2002, 04:02 AM	#3
Desuma Malevois Emerald Dragon Join Date: March 20, 2001 Location: Louisville, KY, USA Age: 65 Posts: 967	FWIW, Xan has that 25 INT in the tutorial because you'll have to have him learn a spell, and that way he's got a 100% chance of suceeding (I know, he would with a 24, also). __________________ Guerilla gourmet, and proprieter of the KFA.<br /><br />\"It\'s all part of the master plan.\"

09-17-2002, 04:32 AM	#4
White Lancer Drizzt Do'Urden Join Date: August 30, 2002 Location: Australia Age: 39 Posts: 628	all the party members in the tutorial have godly stats. __________________ It deons\'t mttaer waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, it olny mtaetrs taht the frsit and lsat ltteer be croecrt. The rset can be a tatol mses and you can sitll raed it. The huamn mnid deos not raed ervey lteter by istlef, but the wrod as a wlohe.

09-17-2002, 11:47 AM	#5
Mr Flibble Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: September 12, 2002 Location: US Age: 51 Posts: 43	Yeah, they are definitely in the tutorial, and why they are so beefed up there is beyond me... maybe it's the dev's way of saying, 'HA! See, you can never have characters like this!' I know I haven't seen Branwen anywhere else than in the tutorial, but... Spoiler (?) * * * * * * * * Now, I may be wrong about this, but don't you also encounter Xan in the Docks lurking around the Harpers HQ, and sends you on a mission to find his thief friend inside the building? Or was that Xar... I can't remember for sure. __________________ Being happy doesn\'t mean everything\'s perfect, it just means you\'ve decided to see beyond the imperfections.

09-17-2002, 12:29 PM	#6
Dundee Slaytern Ironworks Moderator Join Date: June 10, 2001 Location: Pasir Ris, Singapore Age: 42 Posts: 11,063	Minor Spoiler ~ ~ ~ ~ It is Xzar in the Docks District, not Xan. [ 09-17-2002, 12:30 PM: Message edited by: Dundee Slaytern ]

09-17-2002, 12:47 PM	#7
Kaltia Jack Burton Join Date: May 2, 2002 Location: Canterbury, England Age: 38 Posts: 5,817	Xzar is the annoying zent from BG1 who travels with the equally annoying thief Montaron. Xan is the elf at the end of the Nashkel mines with the moonblade. __________________ The wolf is as cunning as he is ferocious; once he's had a taste of flesh then nothing else will do.

09-17-2002, 01:29 PM	#8
Indemaijinj Symbol of Cyric Join Date: June 15, 2002 Location: Denmark Age: 44 Posts: 1,163	If you play the tutorial and look at your fellow NPC's character sheets you will see some other anomalies. They possess BG1 (small swords, large swords etc.) weapon proficiencies instead of BG2 ones for example. If your play the tutorial the xp earned will carry over, but only the ones earned by you. The versions of Imoen, Minsc and Jaheira are not the same as those in the real game. __________________ The Bleak Caballero<br /><br />Proud and original member (and secret admirer) of the Pro-Mazzy movement.

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