Weapon focus for paladin

Zoltan · 08-20-2002, 07:27 PM

I'm a paladin and I'm thinking about focusing in great sword and longsword. Then improved critical for both, and weapon specilization for both (with getting 1 fighter level)

I have 2 feats in start (human+paladin)
I take 1 fighter level when I'm level 2 and I get another feat (fighter)
3,6,9,12,15,18 = 6 feat more

Total: 9

6 for focus,imp critical,specialization (longsword&greatsword)
1 for power attack
1 for cleave
1 for ..umm not decided yet [img]smile.gif[/img] )

I dont know about magical swords in NWN and I dont want to miss good ones. So it's a good idea to specialize in both greatsword&longsword?? or should I specialize in bastard sword&great sword?

I'm a new bie so can you give me some advice and share your thoughts? I'm waiting for your comments..

AndyG · 08-20-2002, 10:54 PM

I'm not sure weapon specialization is worth that much. It gives you +1 on your attack rolls. This is pretty trivial in the long run, and probably not worth two feats. Weapon focus also only gives you +1, but it also lets the game know what weapons you're using, so you'll find more of those weapon types.

There are other good feats to take, like Toughness, Dodge, Mobility, Knockdown, and/or Extra Turning. Taking the feats that add to your saves is usually a good ideaa.

To use a bastard sword, you'll need the Exotic Weapons feat.

Zoltan · 08-21-2002, 06:52 AM

weapon specializations gives +2 damage bonus. isnt it worth of it? touhgness gives only 20 hp worthles in my opinion. extra turning I dont need to.

WOLFGIR · 08-21-2002, 07:08 AM

Cleave, power attack, weapon focus, specialisation and Imp. critical is the way to go!

Parry can be nifty if you use the greatsword and wants to be able to not get skleward..

Weapon focus is needed for many feats in the chain and a plus 1 to hit is a plus one to hit on all the chops you deliver, and +2 in damage on all the chops as well..

That is, if you have three attacks, you get four attakcs with hast

hehehehe and that means on a succesful round of whopping goldberg you can deliver an extra amount of +8 up to 16 if you get all criticals. That with the res is more or less certain to give you some cleave optional attakcs and well.. Chain lightning? Pfwahh, chain Paladin!

You got the priorities oki I think. There is supposed to be a Holy avenger in the game, but I don´t know in what type of sword it comes in.. Kukri perhaps??

Zoltan · 08-21-2002, 08:37 AM

Chain Paladin! Yeahh I like it [img]smile.gif[/img] )) You're right +2 dmg +1 thaco in every chop is nice! I take 1 fighter level it's worth of it.

parry is useless in my opinion? why I'll hide behind my shield and wait for a counter attack? I'LL SLAY EM ALL WITH MY HUGE SWORD!!!

(what does mean "nifty" cant find in dictionarry its meaning)

DraconisRex · 08-21-2002, 10:08 AM

+1 is NOT trivial. For example, you're fighting a creture with an AC of 28. Your attacks are +15/+10/+5. +4 for strength. +2 for weapon. Gives you:

+21/+16/+11. This means you hit in these three ranges:

7-20 (70%), 12-20 (35%), 17-20 (20%). Add +1 and it goes to: 75%, 40% and 25%. The absolute increases are +5% at each level. But the relative (and more important) increases (increased chance to hit at each attack) are 7%, 15% & 25%.

Lots of people have problems understanding the difference between relative and absolute. Encounters with worth foes are not won on the clash of strengths but at the margins of ability.

WOLFGIR · 08-22-2002, 04:42 AM

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Originally posted by Zoltan:

(what does mean "nifty" cant find in dictionarry its meaning)

(from Cambridge International Dictionary of English)

nifty
adjective
INFORMAL
good, pleasing or effective
a nifty addition
a nifty piece of work

http://dictionary.cambridge.org
Very nice link, where you can find out how to really abuse words like a couple, few, some several, many etc!

Tomas Darknite · 08-22-2002, 01:09 PM

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Dump the greatsword and take halberd and bastard sword. The 2 best weapons in the game with the best being the Halberd (+4 ravager)

08-20-2002, 07:27 PM	#1
Zoltan Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2001 Location: Waterdeep Age: 44 Posts: 1,222	I'm a paladin and I'm thinking about focusing in great sword and longsword. Then improved critical for both, and weapon specilization for both (with getting 1 fighter level) I have 2 feats in start (human+paladin) I take 1 fighter level when I'm level 2 and I get another feat (fighter) 3,6,9,12,15,18 = 6 feat more Total: 9 6 for focus,imp critical,specialization (longsword&greatsword) 1 for power attack 1 for cleave 1 for ..umm not decided yet [img]smile.gif[/img] ) I dont know about magical swords in NWN and I dont want to miss good ones. So it's a good idea to specialize in both greatsword&longsword?? or should I specialize in bastard sword&great sword? I'm a new bie so can you give me some advice and share your thoughts? I'm waiting for your comments.. __________________ I can feel the touch of wind on my face. Strong wind was slapping my face. I can feel the ground shake. The sky roars with vengeance and fury. From the shadows, I heard the Archmage's words:"İbne Fenner!" And then..I can't remember the rest..

08-21-2002, 06:52 AM	#3
Zoltan Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2001 Location: Waterdeep Age: 44 Posts: 1,222	weapon specializations gives +2 damage bonus. isnt it worth of it? touhgness gives only 20 hp worthles in my opinion. extra turning I dont need to. __________________ I can feel the touch of wind on my face. Strong wind was slapping my face. I can feel the ground shake. The sky roars with vengeance and fury. From the shadows, I heard the Archmage's words:"İbne Fenner!" And then..I can't remember the rest..

08-21-2002, 07:08 AM	#4
WOLFGIR Bastet - Egyptian Cat Goddess Join Date: March 1, 2001 Location: Sweden Age: 51 Posts: 3,450	Cleave, power attack, weapon focus, specialisation and Imp. critical is the way to go! Parry can be nifty if you use the greatsword and wants to be able to not get skleward.. Weapon focus is needed for many feats in the chain and a plus 1 to hit is a plus one to hit on all the chops you deliver, and +2 in damage on all the chops as well.. That is, if you have three attacks, you get four attakcs with hast hehehehe and that means on a succesful round of whopping goldberg you can deliver an extra amount of +8 up to 16 if you get all criticals. That with the res is more or less certain to give you some cleave optional attakcs and well.. Chain lightning? Pfwahh, chain Paladin! You got the priorities oki I think. There is supposed to be a Holy avenger in the game, but I don´t know in what type of sword it comes in.. Kukri perhaps?? __________________ Don´t eat the yellow snow

08-21-2002, 08:37 AM	#5
Zoltan Symbol of Cyric Join Date: August 17, 2001 Location: Waterdeep Age: 44 Posts: 1,222	Chain Paladin! Yeahh I like it [img]smile.gif[/img] )) You're right +2 dmg +1 thaco in every chop is nice! I take 1 fighter level it's worth of it. parry is useless in my opinion? why I'll hide behind my shield and wait for a counter attack? I'LL SLAY EM ALL WITH MY HUGE SWORD!!! (what does mean "nifty" cant find in dictionarry its meaning) __________________ I can feel the touch of wind on my face. Strong wind was slapping my face. I can feel the ground shake. The sky roars with vengeance and fury. From the shadows, I heard the Archmage's words:"İbne Fenner!" And then..I can't remember the rest..

08-21-2002, 10:08 AM	#6
DraconisRex Avatar Join Date: January 4, 2002 Location: On my rear-end. Posts: 563	+1 is NOT trivial. For example, you're fighting a creture with an AC of 28. Your attacks are +15/+10/+5. +4 for strength. +2 for weapon. Gives you: +21/+16/+11. This means you hit in these three ranges: 7-20 (70%), 12-20 (35%), 17-20 (20%). Add +1 and it goes to: 75%, 40% and 25%. The absolute increases are +5% at each level. But the relative (and more important) increases (increased chance to hit at each attack) are 7%, 15% & 25%. Lots of people have problems understanding the difference between relative and absolute. Encounters with worth foes are not won on the clash of strengths but at the margins of ability. __________________ Quantum materiae materietur marmota monax si marmota monax materiam possit materiari?<br /><br />Vah! Denuone Latine loquebar? Me ineptum. Interdum modo elabitur.<br /><br />Di! Ecce hora! Uxor mea me necabit!

08-20-2002, 10:54 PM	#2
AndyG Elminster Join Date: June 20, 2002 Location: Manchester, CT Age: 56 Posts: 422	I'm not sure weapon specialization is worth that much. It gives you +1 on your attack rolls. This is pretty trivial in the long run, and probably not worth two feats. Weapon focus also only gives you +1, but it also lets the game know what weapons you're using, so you'll find more of those weapon types. There are other good feats to take, like Toughness, Dodge, Mobility, Knockdown, and/or Extra Turning. Taking the feats that add to your saves is usually a good ideaa. To use a bastard sword, you'll need the Exotic Weapons feat.

08-22-2002, 01:09 PM	#8
Tomas Darknite Dungeon Master Join Date: June 18, 2002 Location: Georgia, USA Age: 66 Posts: 88	Spoiler * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Dump the greatsword and take halberd and bastard sword. The 2 best weapons in the game with the best being the Halberd (+4 ravager) __________________ <br />Sir Tomas Darknite, Paladin

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