kensai/thief and gesen bow

parro · 11-15-2005, 06:58 PM

I dualed my kensai at lvl 13 to a thief. I'm level 13 in both now. I would like to have gesen bow equipped at times for a ranged attack but it shows unusable (description says not usable by druid, mage, bard, I think...nothing about thief)

Aside from the RPing aspect, should I be able to use this bow? I've got some nice arrows that would make a nice opening flurry in some situations. Thanks!

[ 11-15-2005, 07:00 PM: Message edited by: parro ]

krunchyfrogg · 11-15-2005, 07:33 PM

No, you can not. The Kensai kit restricts all missile weapons, except for ones that can be used in melee as well (better start putting points into daggers or axes!).

Cam_H · 11-15-2005, 08:39 PM

... until the 'Use Any Item' Higher Level Ability if you also have the Throne of Bhaal expansion installed.

Kyrvias · 11-15-2005, 11:47 PM

Yep. Utnil you get that special HLA, you have to dagger or axe it out.

parro · 11-16-2005, 08:16 AM

krunchyfrogg: "The Kensai kit restricts all missile weapons, except for ones that can be used in melee as well"

duh...I knew that!! Feel kinda stupid now [img]smile.gif[/img]

Thanks for the replies y'all!

Zink Whistlefly · 11-16-2005, 10:50 AM

Just worth keeping in mind that the absense of proficiency points in shortbow for a Kensai will mean that a Gesen wielding Kensai->Thief via UAI will cripple the ApR. IIRC it will be fixed at 2 (base for bows), rather than 7/2 for a specialised+ > level 13 warrior. Granted the damage bonus will certainly make up for this, but it's still worth noting.

Armen · 11-16-2005, 12:00 PM

i'm doing one of these now and you can put your thief proficiency points in bows while your kensai is inactive

(although i'm waiting to see what happens to them when i reactivate)

Darc_Mind · 11-16-2005, 12:03 PM

can you save proficieny points for when you reactivate your dual class?

Armen · 11-16-2005, 12:23 PM

depends what you mean by 'save'

if you put points in the same weapon (or style) as both a kensai and a theif/mage/cleric/druid or whatever then the game gives you the highest number of *s not the total

eg. kensai -> mage

kensai puts *** in staff
kensai puts *** in axe
dual
mage puts * in staff
mage puts * in dagger
kensai reactivates
character has
staff *** (you 'lose' the * you put in as a mage)
axe ***
dagger *

Darc_Mind · 11-16-2005, 12:41 PM

well i have ***** in staff now as a Kensai. I am think perhaps that was a mistake? Maybe I should have invested in other skills at the start?

11-15-2005, 07:33 PM	#2
krunchyfrogg Red Dragon Join Date: February 14, 2004 Location: NY, USA Age: 49 Posts: 1,516	No, you can not. The Kensai kit restricts all missile weapons, except for ones that can be used in melee as well (better start putting points into daggers or axes!). __________________ <i>A life is not important, except in the impact it has on other lives.</i><br />- Jackie Robinson<br /><br /> [img]\"http://img394.imageshack.us/img394/3353/salsashark7xl.gif\" alt=\" - \" />

11-16-2005, 12:03 PM	#8
Darc_Mind Dungeon Master Join Date: December 4, 2001 Location: Columbus, GA Age: 45 Posts: 96	can you save proficieny points for when you reactivate your dual class? __________________ \"\"This is for my grandma, who said I woud never amount to anything but a butter knife\" -Lilarcor, the sword that can\'t shut up

11-16-2005, 12:41 PM	#10
Darc_Mind Dungeon Master Join Date: December 4, 2001 Location: Columbus, GA Age: 45 Posts: 96	well i have ***** in staff now as a Kensai. I am think perhaps that was a mistake? Maybe I should have invested in other skills at the start? __________________ \"\"This is for my grandma, who said I woud never amount to anything but a butter knife\" -Lilarcor, the sword that can\'t shut up

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11-15-2005, 06:58 PM	#1
parro Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 17, 2004 Location: Earth Age: 55 Posts: 10	I dualed my kensai at lvl 13 to a thief. I'm level 13 in both now. I would like to have gesen bow equipped at times for a ranged attack but it shows unusable (description says not usable by druid, mage, bard, I think...nothing about thief) Aside from the RPing aspect, should I be able to use this bow? I've got some nice arrows that would make a nice opening flurry in some situations. Thanks! [ 11-15-2005, 07:00 PM: Message edited by: parro ]

11-15-2005, 08:39 PM	#3
Cam_H Zhentarim Guard Join Date: July 12, 2005 Location: Australia, if you must know. Age: 59 Posts: 320	... until the 'Use Any Item' Higher Level Ability if you also have the Throne of Bhaal expansion installed.

11-15-2005, 11:47 PM	#4
Kyrvias Lord Ao Join Date: May 15, 2005 Posts: 2,092	Yep. Utnil you get that special HLA, you have to dagger or axe it out.

11-16-2005, 08:16 AM	#5
parro Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: August 17, 2004 Location: Earth Age: 55 Posts: 10	krunchyfrogg: "The Kensai kit restricts all missile weapons, except for ones that can be used in melee as well" duh...I knew that!! Feel kinda stupid now [img]smile.gif[/img] Thanks for the replies y'all!

11-16-2005, 10:50 AM	#6
Zink Whistlefly Avatar Join Date: March 20, 2005 Location: North Yorkshire, England Age: 45 Posts: 520	Just worth keeping in mind that the absense of proficiency points in shortbow for a Kensai will mean that a Gesen wielding Kensai->Thief via UAI will cripple the ApR. IIRC it will be fixed at 2 (base for bows), rather than 7/2 for a specialised+ > level 13 warrior. Granted the damage bonus will certainly make up for this, but it's still worth noting.

11-16-2005, 12:00 PM	#7
Armen Symbol of Cyric Join Date: February 11, 2003 Location: UK Age: 55 Posts: 1,375	i'm doing one of these now and you can put your thief proficiency points in bows while your kensai is inactive (although i'm waiting to see what happens to them when i reactivate)

11-16-2005, 12:23 PM	#9
Armen Symbol of Cyric Join Date: February 11, 2003 Location: UK Age: 55 Posts: 1,375	depends what you mean by 'save' if you put points in the same weapon (or style) as both a kensai and a theif/mage/cleric/druid or whatever then the game gives you the highest number of s not the total eg. kensai -> mage kensai puts in staff kensai puts * in axe dual mage puts * in staff mage puts * in dagger kensai reactivates character has staff *** (you 'lose' the * you put in as a mage) axe *** dagger *

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