Any from BG1 u miss?

Dark Drifter · 03-17-2003, 02:58 PM

Does any one wish the put more old characters form bg1 to bg2?

I mean there was a couple people i liked that they added in that u see but never get in your party.

LIve garit. I liked him.
PS: forgive spelling please

Xen · 03-17-2003, 03:14 PM

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madjim · 03-17-2003, 03:16 PM

Brave Brave Sir Garrick, Sir Garrick ran away......

He appears briefly in the Temple District. But if you really miss him just use his sounds and pics from BG1.

That web site is still down

[ 03-17-2003, 03:18 PM: Message edited by: madjim ]

Zarr · 03-17-2003, 05:19 PM

I remember one of my first threads was a similar thread to this. I think the general opinion was the one missed most was Kivan. But there is a few others I really miss like Minsc's witch(can't spell that damn name!) and Branwen. It would be good to be able to take along Branwen instead of that pompous jerk Anmomen that's for sure!

Xero279 · 03-17-2003, 05:37 PM

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Originally posted by Zarr:
I remember one of my first threads was a similar thread to this. I think the general opinion was the one missed most was Kivan. But there is a few others I really miss like Minsc's witch(can't spell that damn name!) and Branwen. It would be good to be able to take along Branwen instead of that pompous jerk Anmomen that's for sure!

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err.. sorry but "minsc's witch" is dead....

Zarr · 03-17-2003, 05:41 PM

*Laughs* Yes Xero I know that but what I mean is I wish she wasn't dead!

SixOfSpades · 03-17-2003, 05:59 PM

TDD did well with some of the NPCs (they turned Kivan into an Archer, which was what he and Coran were meant to be in the first place), but they also screwed up big-time on some of the others. (They turned Montaron into a Swashbuckler? A Montaron that cannot BACKSTAB? Hello???)

Certain other NPCs are back, just under a different name. Quick, name me 5 notable differences between Kagain and Korgan. Or compare the stats of Ajantis and Keldorn.

BG2 doesn't need more NPCs from BG1 as much as it needs more NPCs, period. A list of what you could have had, but don't have:
Archer
Swashbuckler
Kensai
Monk
Priest of Lathander
Wild Mage (with ToB)
Avenger
Cavalier
Jester
Barbarian
Priest of Talos
Assassin
Sorcerer
Beast Master
Skald
Undead Hunter
Totemic Druid
Priest of Helm (even though Anomen clearly should be one)
Wizard Slayer
Half-Orcs? Where are the Half-Orcs?

That makes 19 classes and kits that were neglected--25, if you count the other Mage kits as well. 25 that were left out, and only 17 that were left IN. Considering that the flexibility of party makeup is what primarily drives the game's replayability, BioWare pretty much shot itself in the foot by not providing more NPCs.

Angelousss · 03-18-2003, 12:03 AM

yeah i would have liked more npcs, I liked Alora from BG1 and theres no good straight thief in bg2. She could really use a stat boost though.
More importantly though they should have added more evil characters 4 evil npcs is not enough

Imrahil · 03-18-2003, 12:06 AM

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Originally posted by SixOfSpades:
That makes 19 classes and kits that were neglected--25, if you count the other Mage kits as well. 25 that were left out, and only 17 that were left IN. Considering that the flexibility of party makeup is what primarily drives the game's replayability, BioWare pretty much shot itself in the foot by not providing more NPCs.

I'm not so sure that wasn't their intent, though. Granted they get nothing from me replaying the game in order to see what a Monk is like, but they do get the fact that I will tell anyone who asks "this game has awesome replay value!" due to the fact that there are *so* many combinations I've never seen in action/interaction.

I've never played through as a Blade, Inquisitor, Fighter/Druid, Cleric/Mage, Thief->Mage, Halfling Fighter, or Conjurer, though I have played through as many of the other available options, which would seem to indicate that providing NPC's of "really cool classes" might be a deterrant to me trying out "really cool classes". [img]smile.gif[/img]

- Imrahil

ShadowChild · 03-18-2003, 07:21 AM

I miss Quayle, i mean i know he's in BG2 but you can't stick him in your party. Very handy he was, just wish i could have gotten him earlier on in the game!

03-17-2003, 02:58 PM	#1
Dark Drifter Elite Waterdeep Guard Join Date: February 26, 2003 Location: California, San Diego Age: 40 Posts: 19	Does any one wish the put more old characters form bg1 to bg2? I mean there was a couple people i liked that they added in that u see but never get in your party. LIve garit. I liked him. PS: forgive spelling please __________________ I am not a dreamer or a thinker<br />I am a Drifter

03-17-2003, 05:19 PM	#4
Zarr Symbol of Cyric Join Date: June 19, 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 41 Posts: 1,330	I remember one of my first threads was a similar thread to this. I think the general opinion was the one missed most was Kivan. But there is a few others I really miss like Minsc's witch(can't spell that damn name!) and Branwen. It would be good to be able to take along Branwen instead of that pompous jerk Anmomen that's for sure! __________________ Minsc - \"Don\'t ask questions better left to aged sages\"<br /><br />\"You must gather your party before venturing forth\". BANG shoots him dead

03-17-2003, 05:41 PM	#6
Zarr Symbol of Cyric Join Date: June 19, 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Age: 41 Posts: 1,330	Laughs Yes Xero I know that but what I mean is I wish she wasn't dead! __________________ Minsc - \"Don\'t ask questions better left to aged sages\"<br /><br />\"You must gather your party before venturing forth\". BANG shoots him dead

03-17-2003, 05:59 PM	#7
SixOfSpades Dracolisk Join Date: September 16, 2001 Location: Bellingham, WA, USA Age: 48 Posts: 6,901	TDD did well with some of the NPCs (they turned Kivan into an Archer, which was what he and Coran were meant to be in the first place), but they also screwed up big-time on some of the others. (They turned Montaron into a Swashbuckler? A Montaron that cannot BACKSTAB? Hello???) Certain other NPCs are back, just under a different name. Quick, name me 5 notable differences between Kagain and Korgan. Or compare the stats of Ajantis and Keldorn. BG2 doesn't need more NPCs from BG1 as much as it needs more NPCs, period. A list of what you could have had, but don't have: Archer Swashbuckler Kensai Monk Priest of Lathander Wild Mage (with ToB) Avenger Cavalier Jester Barbarian Priest of Talos Assassin Sorcerer Beast Master Skald Undead Hunter Totemic Druid Priest of Helm (even though Anomen clearly should be one) Wizard Slayer Half-Orcs? Where are the Half-Orcs? That makes 19 classes and kits that were neglected--25, if you count the other Mage kits as well. 25 that were left out, and only 17 that were left IN. Considering that the flexibility of party makeup is what primarily drives the game's replayability, BioWare pretty much shot itself in the foot by not providing more NPCs. __________________ Volothamp's Comeuppance Everything you ever needed to know about the entire Baldur's Gate series......except spoilers.

03-18-2003, 12:03 AM	#8
Angelousss Red Wizard of Thay Join Date: August 23, 2002 Location: come play with my wings Age: 42 Posts: 821	yeah i would have liked more npcs, I liked Alora from BG1 and theres no good straight thief in bg2. She could really use a stat boost though. More importantly though they should have added more evil characters 4 evil npcs is not enough __________________ Just because your paranoid<br />Don\'t mean they\'re not after you<br />Kurt Cobain

03-17-2003, 03:14 PM	#2
Xen Symbol of Moradin Join Date: June 5, 2002 Location: Slovenia,Ljubljana Age: 37 Posts: 8,554	Download TDD and you will have it. Click Here Xen

03-17-2003, 03:16 PM	#3
madjim The Magister Join Date: October 9, 2001 Location: Maryland - The Old Line State Posts: 123	Brave Brave Sir Garrick, Sir Garrick ran away...... He appears briefly in the Temple District. But if you really miss him just use his sounds and pics from BG1. That web site is still down [ 03-17-2003, 03:18 PM: Message edited by: madjim ]

03-18-2003, 07:21 AM	#10
ShadowChild Manshoon Join Date: February 19, 2003 Location: Scouse Land... Age: 45 Posts: 230	I miss Quayle, i mean i know he's in BG2 but you can't stick him in your party. Very handy he was, just wish i could have gotten him earlier on in the game! __________________ Never violate a woman nor harm a child. Do not lie, cheat or steal. These things are for lesser men. Protect the weak against the evil strong. And never allow thoughts of gain to lead you into the pursuit of evil.<br /><br /><i>Druss The Legend</i>

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